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Old 01-01-2011, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Do you have a link that says the baby was alive when the EMTs arrived? EMTs will resuscitate no matter what.
You'll have to look back through this thread yourself. Plenty of them.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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You'll have to look back through this thread yourself. Plenty of them.
None that I've seen and I've read them all pertaining to that issue, b/c I am curious. I mean something stating absolutely that the baby was alive. Not, "they tried to resuscitate the baby", "the mom reported the baby was unconscious", etc.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:26 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Oh yes, I blame him and other city officials for the decisions they made as well. Incompetence is one thing, deliberate action that create pain, suffering and death is quite another.

And his flippant attitude stinks as well.

HIS residential street was clean as a whistle the next day.
Mistakes and bad judgment calls may have been made, but to say deliberate actions were taken to "create pain, suffering and death" is a giant stretch of a jaded imagination. It really is an insult to everyone's intelligence to claim that anyone---including the union members you like to bash---would deliberately put the lives of their fellow city dwellers in danger on purpose during a major crisis. They have family and friends who were equally effected and in danger by having the city shut down and could have needed ambulances or fire protection same as anyone else.
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Old 01-01-2011, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Newborn Victim of NYC Blizzard: Who's To Blame? | The Stir

But by 4:30 pm, the woman's second call was urgent as she was bleeding and the baby was crowning. By 5:20 pm police officers who walked through the snow -- because no vehicles could get through -- found her standing outside her apartment building. Witnesses say the police brought her into the interior of the building and laid the baby out on blankets, but the baby was not breathing.

New York Blizzard: Newborn Baby Dies

The mother, a 22-year-old college senior whose family didn’t know she was pregnant, was making her way to a hospital when she stopped in a building lobby in Brooklyn, unable to walk any farther. Help didn’t arrive until nine hours after the first 911 call was made, in part because the call didn’t at first seem urgent, and in part because the streets weren’t plowed, says the student’s mother: “No one could get to her.â€

The baby, who was to be placed up for adoption, was unresponsive by the time help arrived and was pronounced dead at the hospital; the mother was recovering last night.


This is a very sad story.
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Old 01-02-2011, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Well then, the news reports are a lie then too and misleading.

Sanitation Department's slow snow cleanup was a budget protest
Gov. Paterson calls for snow slowdown probe




Sounds like just something the union would do.

Why are you so determined to dismiss the whistleblower(S)?
Actually think you have finally caught on. The headlines of the reports you have presented, are lies, that you seem to want to continue to perpetrate. IF there was wrong doing, it will be addressed.
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Old 01-02-2011, 06:04 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Snow removal would have proceeded at a rapid clip if each snowplow had a "Redundant Hot Air Source" attached.
This is commonly known as a politician - nature's greatest source of hot air.
With all the hot air emitting from these sources, no snowfall could have long endured.
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Old 01-02-2011, 08:38 AM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Actually think you have finally caught on. The headlines of the reports you have presented, are lies, that you seem to want to continue to perpetrate. IF there was wrong doing, it will be addressed.

So you appear to admit that you have no facts on this subject, only your own speculation and demands that a proof you approve of be provided.

Should it turn out that all is true, will we hear your acceptance or will you just provide <crickets>?
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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So you appear to admit that you have no facts on this subject, only your own speculation and demands that a proof you approve of be provided.

Should it turn out that all is true, will we hear your acceptance or will you just provide <crickets>?
I have never "pretended" to have the facts. That's the difference.
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Old 01-02-2011, 09:44 AM
 
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Just like the non-unionized garage bosses who according to you gave the slowdown orders huh?
Joseph Mannion, president of the Sanitation Officers Association, which represents about 1,000 supervisors

Pretty sure those supervisors are unionized.
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Old 01-02-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Nypost was the paper that first introduced the story, everyone else was follow the leader, and everybody in new york knows that its a tabloid.
I find it hysterical that so many people from outside the NY metro area use the NY Post as their information source. I'm surprised the Post didn't take up the Bat Boy saga when the Weekly World News folded.
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