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Old 01-19-2011, 04:55 PM
 
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I think there are signs people put up in stores etc. that says "we reserve the right to refuse service".

Whatever that means.

I've seen signs like this before. Never seen that exercised against someone of an ethnicity or sexual persuasion.
There are certain occasions where it is legal to refuse service. For example it is legal for a bar to refuse service to someone who is drunk. However, it would be illegal to refuse service because that person was gay or black.
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:58 PM
 
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So much for private ownership. It is their business. It is their right to rerfuse business if they choose.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:00 PM
 
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So much for private ownership. It is their business. It is their right to rerfuse business if they choose.

No it isn't. It is a commercial enterprise and such discrimination is illegal in England. They broke the law, it is as simple as that. If they want to discriminate then they should open a business in a country where it is legal.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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If this is a private business, I don't see anything wrong with them wanting the couple to sleep in separate rooms and not accepting gay couples.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:02 PM
 
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Is it legal throughout the USA?

I'm not aware of that.
It is legal - not throughout, but in roughly half of the US it is.

There is no federal protection based on sexual orientation. That covers race, religion, national origin, etc. Some states have added it to their state civil rights laws, but many have not (I think it's like half-n-half). Some cities have added it too (for instance Florida offers no protection based on sexual orientation, but Key West does).

In many parts of the US it is perfectly legal for a business to deny someone a hotel room, a meal, to have the shirt dry cleaned simply, etc. simply because they are gay (or because the business owner thinks the person is gay).

Similarly, in many parts of the US it is perfectly legal to fire an employee simply because his employer finds out he's gay, rent an apartment to someone because he is gay, etc, etc, etc.



So yeah, it's legal in many parts of the US for a Christian business owner to discriminate against a gay, but it is always illegal for a gay business owner to discriminate against a Christian. And then the Christian has the nerve to say gays want "special rights" when all they ask for is equal treatment under the law.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:03 PM
 
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There are certain occasions where it is legal to refuse service. For example it is legal for a bar to refuse service to someone who is drunk. However, it would be illegal to refuse service because that person was gay or black.
Black yes - that would be illegal. In large parts of the US, however, it would be perfectly legal for a bar to deny service solely because the person seeking a beer is gay.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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So did they go there knowing there was going to be a problem? If I saw a website that said "black can't stay here" I wouldn't go there and then sue when I'm not allowed entry.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:05 PM
 
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Black yes - that would be illegal. In large parts of the US, however, it would be perfectly legal for a bar to deny service solely because the person seeking a beer is gay.
Interesting. Did not know that.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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It is legal - not throughout, but in roughly half of the US it is.

There is no federal protection based on sexual orientation. That covers race, religion, national origin, etc. Some states have added it to their state civil rights laws, but many have not (I think it's like half-n-half). Some cities have added it too (for instance Florida offers no protection based on sexual orientation, but Key West does).

In many parts of the US it is perfectly legal for a business to deny someone a hotel room, a meal, to have the shirt dry cleaned simply, etc. simply because they are gay (or because the business owner thinks the person is gay).

Similarly, in many parts of the US it is perfectly legal to fire an employee simply because his employer finds out he's gay, rent an apartment to someone because he is gay, etc, etc, etc.



So yeah, it's legal in many parts of the US for a Christian business owner to discriminate against a gay, but it is always illegal for a gay business owner to discriminate against a Christian. And then the Christian has the nerve to say gays want "special rights" when all they ask for is equal treatment under the law.
I agree, allow the homosexuals to discriminate against Christians.
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Old 01-19-2011, 05:06 PM
 
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So did they go there knowing there was going to be a problem? If I saw a website that said "black can't stay here" I wouldn't go there and then sue when I'm not allowed entry.
According to them ... no. But its still irrelevant. The hotel owners broke the law.
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