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Not every fear has to be about war. Seeing your artificial "friend" anymore must be quite discomforting for Israel. Don't you think?
I have no clue what this is supposed to mean.
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It appalls me that for "conservatives", sending tax payers dollars is a great idea but spend it here, and the Americans benefiting from it are the undesirables, do-nothing-piece-of-trash. But even looking past it, money can't buy everything, and especially peace. It is natural for people to take control of their own land.
I was not supporting foreign aid, you just like twist and contort everything, and then rant on it.
WTF does Obama have to do with it? You Yanks think the USA controls the entire world. Get a grip, he is doing well with it. America stands for freedom, right. So he has said that the people of Egypt deserve freedom. On the other hand he does not know what the outcome will be. Therefore he does not want to totally alienate the present administration there. Egypt has been a very good ally for the USA for a long time and hopefully it will remain as such for a long time to come. To be seen as trying hard one way or the other to effect an outcome favourable for the USA will be a loosing proposition one way or the other. Let us not forget that Russia was Egypt's closest ally before Sadat. The main focus should be an attempt to prevent radical Islamist from taking control. I'm sure that this can be done behind the scene utilizing the close relationship between the US and Egypt's military.
I think the best outcome at this point would be a military takeover of the country leading to elections at whatever point the country has been stabilized. This should be seen as a totally internal solution without foreign intervention of any sort.
WTF does Obama have to do with it? You Yanks think the USA controls the entire world. Get a grip, he is doing well with it. America stands for freedom, right. So he has said that the people of Egypt deserve freedom. On the other hand he does not know what the outcome will be. Therefore he does not want to totally alienate the present administration there. Egypt has been a very good ally for the USA for a long time and hopefully it will remain as such for a long time to come. To be seen as trying hard one way or the other to effect an outcome favourable for the USA will be a loosing proposition one way or the other. Let us not forget that Russia was Egypt's closest ally before Sadat. The main focus should be an attempt to prevent radical Islamist from taking control. I'm sure that this can be done behind the scene utilizing the close relationship between the US and Egypt's military.
I think the best outcome at this point would be a military takeover of the country leading to elections at whatever point the country has been stabilized. This should be seen as a totally internal solution without foreign intervention of any sort.
WTF does Obama have to do with it? You Yanks think the USA controls the entire world. Get a grip, he is doing well with it. America stands for freedom, right. So he has said that the people of Egypt deserve freedom. On the other hand he does not know what the outcome will be. Therefore he does not want to totally alienate the present administration there. Egypt has been a very good ally for the USA for a long time and hopefully it will remain as such for a long time to come. To be seen as trying hard one way or the other to effect an outcome favourable for the USA will be a loosing proposition one way or the other. Let us not forget that Russia was Egypt's closest ally before Sadat. The main focus should be an attempt to prevent radical Islamist from taking control. I'm sure that this can be done behind the scene utilizing the close relationship between the US and Egypt's military.
I think the best outcome at this point would be a military takeover of the country leading to elections at whatever point the country has been stabilized. This should be seen as a totally internal solution without foreign intervention of any sort.
So your suggestion is to wait until the dust settles before the United States intervenes in their affairs then, yes?
People are assuming that radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood are all that is going to be left standing at the end, and I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest otherwise. I suspect the people of Egypt have had a great deal more exposure to western culture and lifestyles than most other Middle Eastern nations and they like it as is indicated by calls for support among European nations.
What I get from the OP's article is that the biggest fear now is that Egypt may start acting on behalf of Egypt's best interests and the interests of its people which may not be our best interests of the best interest of Israel and this is freaking them out.
So your suggestion is to wait until the dust settles before the United States intervenes in their affairs then, yes?
People are assuming that radical groups like the Muslim Brotherhood are all that is going to be left standing at the end, and I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest otherwise. I suspect the people of Egypt have had a great deal more exposure to western culture and lifestyles than most other Middle Eastern nations and they like it as is indicated by calls for support among European nations.
What I get from the OP's article is that the biggest fear now is that Egypt may start acting on behalf of Egypt's best interests and the interests of its people which may not be our best interests of the best interest of Israel and this is freaking them out.
I think that's just it--we're in a tough spot. The Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas are making threats toward Israel, but we don't know yet if they have enough pull to take over the government, and we have a friendly relationship with the Egyptian military (which helps). Whether we support Israel as an ally or not, if the Muslim Brotherhood would take over, a war in that region would be a mess for our interests in terms of oil and the economy. It's not just us--it's most of the western world. It's not a pretty truth, but it's real. I think most of the major western governments are sitting back trying to see which way the wind is going to blow before they decide to do anything publicly, but I'm sure we're doing whatever we can behind the scenes right now.
WTF does Obama have to do with it? You Yanks think the USA controls the entire world. Get a grip, he is doing well with it. America stands for freedom, right. So he has said that the people of Egypt deserve freedom. On the other hand he does not know what the outcome will be. Therefore he does not want to totally alienate the present administration there. Egypt has been a very good ally for the USA for a long time and hopefully it will remain as such for a long time to come. To be seen as trying hard one way or the other to effect an outcome favourable for the USA will be a loosing proposition one way or the other. Let us not forget that Russia was Egypt's closest ally before Sadat. The main focus should be an attempt to prevent radical Islamist from taking control. I'm sure that this can be done behind the scene utilizing the close relationship between the US and Egypt's military.
I think the best outcome at this point would be a military takeover of the country leading to elections at whatever point the country has been stabilized. This should be seen as a totally internal solution without foreign intervention of any sort.
Military takeover? You find that to be "the best outcome"? I don't know how else to put it but you are a moron for saying that. Are you from Egypt or know anyone there? You don't know what you are talking about.
Funny how some commenters make it sound like this uprising against a 30-year long dicator is a bad thing.
Probably the same people who say muslims are all fundamentalists. But whenever they want democracy...that's 'unrest'.
You should be applauding this.
Funny how that works.
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What I get from the OP's article is that the biggest fear now is that Egypt may start acting on behalf of Egypt's best interests and the interests of its people which may not be our best interests of the best interest of Israel and this is freaking them out.
No doubt. Haaretz isn't exactly known for its unbiased objective reporting.
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