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Military takeover? You find that to be "the best outcome"? I don't know how else to put it but you are a moron for saying that. Are you from Egypt or know anyone there? You don't know what you are talking about.
The military is the most stable organization in the whole country right now and has always been popular with the people. The government police on the other hand are notorious for being thugs and repressors. Essentially, during the demonstrations, the military has protected the public from the abuses by the police. When the military showed up, the police disappeared. What other organization could possibly run the country while waiting for free elections if not them?
I think that's just it--we're in a tough spot. The Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas are making threats toward Israel, but we don't know yet if they have enough pull to take over the government, and we have a friendly relationship with the Egyptian military (which helps). Whether we support Israel as an ally or not, if the Muslim Brotherhood would take over, a war in that region would be a mess for our interests in terms of oil and the economy. It's not just us--it's most of the western world. It's not a pretty truth, but it's real. I think most of the major western governments are sitting back trying to see which way the wind is going to blow before they decide to do anything publicly, but I'm sure we're doing whatever we can behind the scenes right now.
Well Hamas is a different animal all together and while we in America simply label them as purely a terrorist group, they were not only democratically elected then usurped by the Palestinian Authority, but they have a government-political wing, a social wing, and a militant wing of their organization.
The Muslim Brotherhood on the other hand is much more like Al Qaeda and even the Taliban in that its existence is far more based on mere opposition to a government or intervention of the west, its a movement based on these things and not much else. Ask the Muslim Brotherhood what their plans are for social programs or managing the government finances and suddenly you find they have no plan because that is not their purpose. Remove the object of their objections and suddenly they find themselves not so popular.
This happened in Libya with a group tied to both Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood as once they started calling for the assassinations of fellow Muslims who supported the west, this led to eventual calls for the assassinations of fellow Muslims who weren't a part of this group. Suddenly the people realized it wasn't such a good idea and they only have to look at how the people of Afghanistan ended up living under Taliban rule.
Ask the people of Egypt whether they would rather live like Muslims in Afghanistan or if they enjoy their color TV's and cable and I am willing to bet that in the end, they see the benefits of being friendly with the west.
Well Hamas is a different animal all together and while we in America simply label them as purely a terrorist group, they were not only democratically elected then usurped by the Palestinian Authority, but they have a government-political wing, a social wing, and a militant wing of their organization.
The Muslim Brotherhood on the other hand is much more like Al Qaeda and even the Taliban in that its existence is far more based on mere opposition to a government or intervention of the west, its a movement based on these things and not much else. Ask the Muslim Brotherhood what their plans are for social programs or managing the government finances and suddenly you find they have no plan because that is not their purpose. Remove the object of their objections and suddenly they find themselves not so popular.
This happened in Libya with a group tied to both Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood as once they started calling for the assassinations of fellow Muslims who supported the west, this led to eventual calls for the assassinations of fellow Muslims who weren't a part of this group. Suddenly the people realized it wasn't such a good idea and they only have to look at how the people of Afghanistan ended up living under Taliban rule.
Ask the people of Egypt whether they would rather live like Muslims in Afghanistan or if they enjoy their color TV's and cable and I am willing to bet that in the end, they see the benefits of being friendly with the west.
That's why I think the best thing we have going for us is that the Egyptian military is popular with the people, friendly to us, and as another poster said, able to keep the country stable in the event that they move toward democratic elections.
That's why I think the best thing we have going for us is that the Egyptian military is popular with the people, friendly to us, and as another poster said, able to keep the country stable in the event that they move toward democratic elections.
Right, we don't care what the Egyptian populace think, as long as their military is good to the US... and later can kiss our arse.
Right, we don't care what the Egyptian populace think, as long as their military is good to the US... and later can kiss our arse.
No need for snark. The Egyptian people love their military, and they've protected them from the much more corrupt police. We trust them to keep the overthrow of the existing regime up front in terms of holding actual democratic elections, and not using it as a ploy to overthrow the government and put a potentially worse dictator in. How is that a bad situation for anyone involved?
No need for snark. The Egyptian people love their military, and they've protected them from the much more corrupt police. We trust them to keep the overthrow of the existing regime up front in terms of holding actual democratic elections, and not using it as a ploy to overthrow the government and put a potentially worse dictator in. How is that a bad situation for anyone involved?
That's just it, they do not. It is irrelevant anyway, this is a popular uprising. And any military will be swept away if the people decide so.
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