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If you have traffic issues, your local and state governments should figure them out and be ready to fund a substantial portion of the project.
We are with massive Rail restorations....half paided for by the feds. You should stop your North Dakota senators form blocking bills stoping Amtrak form getting rid of long distance services...
I can't believe you are actually asking this question as a lot of your posts/threads are about Obama,Democrats and the Economy and Americans.
If they were not responsible for guiding and leading this Country then ALL your posts regarding them(The Government) and the Economy are absolutely pointless now isn't it???
I don't feel it's the government's responsibility to meet every need and want of it's citizens. That is the very mentality that has brought us where we are today - $14 Trillion in debt.
There is NO need and hardly a WANT for HSP, just another bad liberal idea that will cost at least 4 times what they say it will.
Interestingly enough, the American Conservative magazine online has a new section on the conservative case for alternative transportation, mainly trains.
Where does the US Constitution grant Congress the authority to create a high-speed rail system, or fund a train of any kind for that matter?
The last time I checked, the US Constitution granted Congress the power to "establish Post Offices and Post Roads." Please tell me they are not going to pretend that a rail system has something to do with delivering the mail.
Is it any surprise that Congress does not give a damn about their restrictions and limitations under the US Constitution, when we do not care either?
We'd be better off investing half the cost it would take to build high speed rail and put it towards developing alternative fuels/energy for our cars, trucks, planes, and existing freight/passenger trains.
The market will develop alternative fuels when they are needed. If there is a buck to be made by meeting the needs of society, society's needs get met every time.
There isn't a public rail or bus transit system anywhere that pays for itself. All of them are subsidized by tax payers or vehicle owners. So how will taking more money out of the pockets of tax payers and vehicle owners improve our economy?
There isn't a public rail or bus transit system anywhere that pays for itself. All of them are subsidized by tax payers or vehicle owners. So how will taking more money out of the pockets of tax payers and vehicle owners improve our economy?
NEW REPORT SLAYS THE MYTH THAT ROADS PAY FOR THEMSELVES
Here's the unofficial , though Rail fanner / Engineer certified Future System growth...2050 plan , even a mile extension does wonders in this region. Intercity Rail extensions are factored into those numbers , but not HSR. Majority of us beleave 70% of this be built....over the next 20-40 years...
Virginia
Current system size : 90 mi
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 116
added Miles of Diesel Rail / Intercity Rail : 517
New Hampshire
Current system size : 20
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 150
added miles of Intercity Rail : 74
New Jersey
Current system size : 570 mi
added Miles of DMU Rail : 98
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 346
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 254
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 133
Lower Hudson Valley
Current system size : 156 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 221
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 148
Northeastern PA
Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel / Intercity Rail : 193
Southern Tier New York
Current system size : 0
added miles of Diesel : 59
added miles of Intercity Rail : 129
Upstate New York
Current system size : 460
added miles of Intercity Rail : 90
Long Island
Current system size : 700
added miles of Electrified Rail : 640
Southeastern PA
Current system size : 450
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 335
added Miles of DMU : 92
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 108
Amish Country
Current system size : 50
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 36
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 108
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 47
Connecticut
Current system size : 132
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 248
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 74
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 58
Massachusetts
Current system size : 368
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 270
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 102
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 452
Maine
Current system size : 40
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 246
Delaware
Current system size : 20 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 249
added miles of Electrified Rail : 37
Maryland
Current system size : 187 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 197
added miles of Electrified Rail : 184
Rhode Island
Current system size : 30
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 76
added miles of Diesel Rail : 49
Total Added miles : 18,211
Urban / Suburban Rail systems...
Northern Virgina Current System : 29 mi
added miles of Metrorail : 52
added miles of Streetcar : 89
added miles of Bus Rapid Transit : 41
Washington DC Current System : 106 mi
added miles of Metrorail : 52
added miles of streetcar : 50
added miles of Bus Rapid Transit : 40
Maryland Suburbs of DC Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 24
added miles of Light rail : 43
added miles of Bus Rapid Transit : 51
Baltimore Current System : 40 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 84
added miles of subway : 12
Fredrick
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 9
Wilmington
Current system : 0
added miles of streetcar : 15
Philly
Current system : 117 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 57
added miles of Streetcar / Tram : 52
added miles of Metro / Subway : 21
Urban Jersey
Current system : 78 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 214
added miles of Streetcar / Tram : 0
added miles of Metro / Subway : 28
Connecticut's Urban systems...
Stamford Current System : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 12
New Haven Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 10
Hartford
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 13
Bridgeport
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 13
Rhode Island
Providence / Fall River Current system : 0
added miles of Light Rail : 51
added miles of Streetcar : 30
Massachusetts
Boston
Current system : 90
added miles of Light Rail : 8
added miles of Metrorail : 7
Springfield
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 7
Current JCT cities - Cities with 2 or more Regional Rail lines or 1 Regional Rail line and a connecting Rail Transit service
Newark
Philly
Rahway
Trenton
NYC
Boston
Springfield
Norristown
Lansdale
Baltimore
DC
Secaucus
Future JCT Cities
By 2020
Providence
Harrisburg
Allentown
Philpsburg
Beacon,NY
Richmond
Fredrick
Trenton
Wilmington
Camden
New Brunswick,NJ
Danbury
Worcester
Springfield
Paterson
Hackensack
Elizabeth,NJ
Norristown
King of Prussia
Bound Brook
Manville,NJ
Wayne
Lawrence,MA
Salem,MA
Attleboro,MA
Taunton,MA
Monmouth JCT
Norfolk
Hampton Roads
By 2030 - 2040
Dover
New London
Portland,ME
Manchester,NH
Reading
West Chester
White Plains
Tarrytown
Port Chester
Binghamton
Hartford
Waterbury
Newark,DE
Lynchburg
Roanoke
Albany
Rochester
Syracuse
Scranton
York
South Amboy
Perth Amboy
Staten Island
Hudson,NY
Suffern,NY
Lancaster
Fall River
New Bedford
Greenfield,MA
Concord,NH
LIRR
Location : Long Island and Manhattan
Daily Ridership : 341,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 700+ mi
Stations : 124 Future upgrades / Expansions : Wading River line Restoration , Central Branch , Montauk Branch , Port Jefferson Branch Electrification , East Side Access Project , City Core Rail line , Sunset Park line
NJT Regional Rail
Location : New Jersey , Rockland and Orange counties NY
Daily Ridership : 330,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 750,000+)
System size : 536 mi
Stations : 162 stations Future Upgrades / Expansions : Flemington line , West Trenton line , Cape May line , Toms River line , Freehold line , Lehigh Valley line , Philpsburg Extension of the Morristown line , Lackawanna line , Pompton line , Sparta line , 5 New Transfer Stations ,more Electrification
MNRR
Location : Northern NYC Suburbs and Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 287,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 620,000+)
System size : 156 mi
Stations : 120 Future upgrades / Expansions : MNRR expansion to Penn Station of the Hudson and New Haven lines , West Shore line , Restoration of the Graham & Beacon lines
MBTA Regional Rail
Location : Eastern Massachusetts , Northern Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : 130,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 642,000+)
System size : 368 mi
Stations : 132 Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of Cape Cod , Newport / Fall River line , New Bedford line , Greenfield line , Concord line , Portsmouth / Newburyport line , Manchester / Lawrence line.... North - South Tunnel , Ayer line , Electrified lines
Septa Regional Rail
Location : Southeastern PA , Northern Delaware , and Southern Jersey
Daily Ridership : 121,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 370,000+)
System size : 450 mi
Stations : 150 Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of West Chester , Reading , Allentown , Stony Branch , Newton lines ....New lines , New Hope ,
Parkersburg Extension of the Thorndale line , Newark / Boothywn line , Coatesville line , Oxford lines
MARC Train
Location : Maryland
Daily Ridership : 33,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 250,000)
System size : 187 mi
Stations : 43 Future Upgrades / Expansions : LA plata line and Extension of the Brunswick line to Hagerstorm , and Penn line Service to Wilmington , Warminster branch and Harrisburg lines
CT DOT Regional Rail
Location : Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 135,000 (Projected 2030 Ridership : 690,000)
System size : 32 mi
Stations : 185 Future Upgrades / Extensions : Danbury Electrification , Restoration of the Pittsfield line , Extension of Shoreline East to Westerly,RI , Restoration of the Central Manchester Branch , Restoration of the Waterbury - Hartford line , Restoration of Torrington Branch , Restoration of the Connecticut River branch , Restoration of the Middletown branch , Waterbury Branch upgrades , Restoration of the Thames River / Worcester line , Upgrades to the New Haven line and more stations.
RIDOT Regional Rail
Location : Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : Not Known
System size : 14 mi
Stations : 2 Future Upgrades and Extensions : Restoration of the Woonsocket line , Upgrades to the Northeast Corridor (4 tracking) , Restoration of Cape Cod line , Fall River / Newport line , Central RI Amtrak Re-router line.
Amtrak Northeastern Divison
Location : Northeastern US
Daily Ridership : 50,000 (Projected 2030 ridership : 820,000)
System size : 2395 mi
Stations : 130 Future Upgrades and Extensions : Lackawanna Corridor , Lehigh Corridor , New Northeast Corridor , New Vermonter route , Downstate Delaware route , Elmira Connection , I-90 High Speed Rail corridor , New Haven - Springfield Intercity Rail corridor , Cape Cod Express , Downeaster extension to Brunswick , Lewiston and Bangor , Upgrades to All Northeast Corridor stations and other lines.
Here's the unofficial , though Rail fanner / Engineer certified Future System growth...2050 plan , even a mile extension does wonders in this region. Intercity Rail extensions are factored into those numbers , but not HSR. Majority of us beleave 70% of this be built....over the next 20-40 years...
Virginia
Current system size : 90 mi
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 116
added Miles of Diesel Rail / Intercity Rail : 517
New Hampshire
Current system size : 20
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 150
added miles of Intercity Rail : 74
New Jersey
Current system size : 570 mi
added Miles of DMU Rail : 98
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 346
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 254
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 133
Lower Hudson Valley
Current system size : 156 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 221
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 148
Northeastern PA
Current system size : 0
added Miles of Diesel / Intercity Rail : 193
Southern Tier New York
Current system size : 0
added miles of Diesel : 59
added miles of Intercity Rail : 129
Upstate New York
Current system size : 460
added miles of Intercity Rail : 90
Long Island
Current system size : 700
added miles of Electrified Rail : 640
Southeastern PA
Current system size : 450
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 335
added Miles of DMU : 92
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 108
Amish Country
Current system size : 50
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 36
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 108
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 47
Connecticut
Current system size : 132
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 248
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 74
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 58
Massachusetts
Current system size : 368
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 270
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 102
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 452
Maine
Current system size : 40
added Miles of Intercity Rail : 246
Delaware
Current system size : 20 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 249
added miles of Electrified Rail : 37
Maryland
Current system size : 187 mi
added Miles of Diesel Rail : 197
added miles of Electrified Rail : 184
Rhode Island
Current system size : 30
added Miles of Electrified Rail : 76
added miles of Diesel Rail : 49
Total Added miles : 18,211
Urban / Suburban Rail systems...
Northern Virgina Current System : 29 mi
added miles of Metrorail : 52
added miles of Streetcar : 89
added miles of Bus Rapid Transit : 41
Washington DC Current System : 106 mi
added miles of Metrorail : 52
added miles of streetcar : 50
added miles of Bus Rapid Transit : 40
Maryland Suburbs of DC Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 24
added miles of Light rail : 43
added miles of Bus Rapid Transit : 51
Baltimore Current System : 40 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 84
added miles of subway : 12
Fredrick
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 9
Wilmington
Current system : 0
added miles of streetcar : 15
Philly
Current system : 117 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 57
added miles of Streetcar / Tram : 52
added miles of Metro / Subway : 21
Urban Jersey
Current system : 78 mi
added miles of Light Rail : 214
added miles of Streetcar / Tram : 0
added miles of Metro / Subway : 28
Connecticut's Urban systems...
Stamford Current System : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 12
New Haven Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 10
Hartford
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 13
Bridgeport
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 13
Rhode Island
Providence / Fall River Current system : 0
added miles of Light Rail : 51
added miles of Streetcar : 30
Massachusetts
Boston
Current system : 90
added miles of Light Rail : 8
added miles of Metrorail : 7
Springfield
Current system : 0
added miles of Streetcar : 7
Current JCT cities - Cities with 2 or more Regional Rail lines or 1 Regional Rail line and a connecting Rail Transit service
Newark
Philly
Rahway
Trenton
NYC
Boston
Springfield
Norristown
Lansdale
Baltimore
DC
Secaucus
Future JCT Cities
By 2020
Providence
Harrisburg
Allentown
Philpsburg
Beacon,NY
Richmond
Fredrick
Trenton
Wilmington
Camden
New Brunswick,NJ
Danbury
Worcester
Springfield
Paterson
Hackensack
Elizabeth,NJ
Norristown
King of Prussia
Bound Brook
Manville,NJ
Wayne
Lawrence,MA
Salem,MA
Attleboro,MA
Taunton,MA
Monmouth JCT
Norfolk
Hampton Roads
By 2030 - 2040
Dover
New London
Portland,ME
Manchester,NH
Reading
West Chester
White Plains
Tarrytown
Port Chester
Binghamton
Hartford
Waterbury
Newark,DE
Lynchburg
Roanoke
Albany
Rochester
Syracuse
Scranton
York
South Amboy
Perth Amboy
Staten Island
Hudson,NY
Suffern,NY
Lancaster
Fall River
New Bedford
Greenfield,MA
Concord,NH
LIRR
Location : Long Island and Manhattan
Daily Ridership : 341,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 570,000+)
System size : 700+ mi
Stations : 124 Future upgrades / Expansions : Wading River line Restoration , Central Branch , Montauk Branch , Port Jefferson Branch Electrification , East Side Access Project , City Core Rail line , Sunset Park line
NJT Regional Rail
Location : New Jersey , Rockland and Orange counties NY
Daily Ridership : 330,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 750,000+)
System size : 536 mi
Stations : 162 stations Future Upgrades / Expansions : Flemington line , West Trenton line , Cape May line , Toms River line , Freehold line , Lehigh Valley line , Philpsburg Extension of the Morristown line , Lackawanna line , Pompton line , Sparta line , 5 New Transfer Stations ,more Electrification
MNRR
Location : Northern NYC Suburbs and Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 287,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 620,000+)
System size : 156 mi
Stations : 120 Future upgrades / Expansions : MNRR expansion to Penn Station of the Hudson and New Haven lines , West Shore line , Restoration of the Graham & Beacon lines
MBTA Regional Rail
Location : Eastern Massachusetts , Northern Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : 130,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 642,000+)
System size : 368 mi
Stations : 132 Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of Cape Cod , Newport / Fall River line , New Bedford line , Greenfield line , Concord line , Portsmouth / Newburyport line , Manchester / Lawrence line.... North - South Tunnel , Ayer line , Electrified lines
Septa Regional Rail
Location : Southeastern PA , Northern Delaware , and Southern Jersey
Daily Ridership : 121,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 370,000+)
System size : 450 mi
Stations : 150 Future Upgrades / Expansions : Restoration of West Chester , Reading , Allentown , Stony Branch , Newton lines ....New lines , New Hope ,
Parkersburg Extension of the Thorndale line , Newark / Boothywn line , Coatesville line , Oxford lines
MARC Train
Location : Maryland
Daily Ridership : 33,000 (Projected 2030 Daily Ridership : 250,000)
System size : 187 mi
Stations : 43 Future Upgrades / Expansions : LA plata line and Extension of the Brunswick line to Hagerstorm , and Penn line Service to Wilmington , Warminster branch and Harrisburg lines
CT DOT Regional Rail
Location : Connecticut
Daily Ridership : 135,000 (Projected 2030 Ridership : 690,000)
System size : 32 mi
Stations : 185 Future Upgrades / Extensions : Danbury Electrification , Restoration of the Pittsfield line , Extension of Shoreline East to Westerly,RI , Restoration of the Central Manchester Branch , Restoration of the Waterbury - Hartford line , Restoration of Torrington Branch , Restoration of the Connecticut River branch , Restoration of the Middletown branch , Waterbury Branch upgrades , Restoration of the Thames River / Worcester line , Upgrades to the New Haven line and more stations.
RIDOT Regional Rail
Location : Rhode Island
Daily Ridership : Not Known
System size : 14 mi
Stations : 2 Future Upgrades and Extensions : Restoration of the Woonsocket line , Upgrades to the Northeast Corridor (4 tracking) , Restoration of Cape Cod line , Fall River / Newport line , Central RI Amtrak Re-router line.
Amtrak Northeastern Divison
Location : Northeastern US
Daily Ridership : 50,000 (Projected 2030 ridership : 820,000)
System size : 2395 mi
Stations : 130 Future Upgrades and Extensions : Lackawanna Corridor , Lehigh Corridor , New Northeast Corridor , New Vermonter route , Downstate Delaware route , Elmira Connection , I-90 High Speed Rail corridor , New Haven - Springfield Intercity Rail corridor , Cape Cod Express , Downeaster extension to Brunswick , Lewiston and Bangor , Upgrades to All Northeast Corridor stations and other lines.
Gees, all that rail and only on the east coast. No wonder easterners want to be like Europe. They already have the rail system just like Europe. Meanwhile, all the western states have to pay so easterners can be just like Europe. What a bunch of pathetic parasites.
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