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Old 05-06-2011, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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uhm

fascists BELIEVED in centralized education paid by the taxpayer
fascist were pro-union...they were against private unions wanted everybody to be part of the public union
fascists were FOR abortion (eugentics programing of the liberals)
and yes symbolism...like "hope and change" and "yes we can"
and unions are corporations


liberals = progressives = fascists
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:46 AM
 
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ever hear of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission.

Right now the United States is completely under the control of those who run these two organizations (David Rockefeller in particular). It is therefore important to understand these organizations if we wish to understand what has been taking place in the United States since the early 1900’s.

The Council on Foreign Relations was founded in 1921 by Edward Mandell House, who had been the chief advisor of President Woodrow Wilson. Actually, he was more than just a prominent aide of the President; he dominated the President. He was referred to as Wilson’s "alter ego" (other self), and was credited for being the most powerful individual in the United States during the Wilson Administration from 1913 until 1921.

House was a Marxist whose goal was to socialize the United States. In 1912, House wrote the book "Philip Dru: Administrator" in which he stated that he was working for "Socialism as dreamed of by Karl Marx." In this book, House laid out a plan for the conquest of America, telling how both the Democratic and Republican Parties would be controlled, and be used as instruments in the creation of a socialistic government. And he asked for the establishment of a state-controlled central bank, which were both proposed in "The Communist Manifesto". And it was in 1913, during the very first year of the House-dominated Wilson Administration, that both of these proposals became law. The Federal Reserve Act was passed, which brought into power a private central bank to create the money of the United States, taking this power away from the united States Congress. And the 16th Amendment to the United States Constitution, the graduated income tax as proposed by Karl Marx, was also ratified.

In 1921, House and his friends formed the Council on Foreign Relations whose purpose right from its conception was to destroy the freedom and independence of the United States, and to lead the country into a one-world government.

Right from its beginning, in 1921, the CFR began to attract men of power and influence. In the late 1920’s, important financing for the CFR came from the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation. In 1940, at the invitation of President Roosevelt, members of the CFR gained domination over the State Department, and they have maintained this domination ever since.

The late Carroll Quigley (Bill Clinton’s mentor), Professor of History at Georgetown University, member of the CFR, stated in his book,
"Tragedy & Hope":

"The CFR is the American Branch of a society which originated in England, and which believes that national boundaries should be obliterated, and a one-world rule established."


Rear Admiral Chester Ward, a former member of the Cfr for 16 years, warned the American people of the organization’s intentions:

"The most powerful clique in these elitist groups have one objective in common — they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereingty of the national independence of the United States. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of global government."

And Dan Smoot, a former member of the FBI Headquarters staff in Washington, D.C., summarized the organization’s purpose as follows:

"The ultimate aim of the CFR is to create a one-world socialist system, and to make the U.S. an official part of it."


In other words, the CFR’s activities are treasonous to the U.S. Constitution. Their goal is to put an end to the United States of America, and to make the country a part of their global government scheme.

In one of the CFR’s annual reports, published in 1978, it listed a membership of 1878 members. Eleven of its members at this time were United States Senators, with even more Congressmen belonging to the organization. 284 of its members listed in this report were United States Government officials. And the Chairman of the Board of this immensely powerful pyramid was stated as being none other than David Rockefeller himself.

The CFR not only has its members in the United States Government, but its influence has also spead to other vital areas of American life. According to Newell: "Its members have run, or are running, NBC and CBS, ‘The New York Times’, ‘The Washington Post’, ‘The Des Moines Register’, and many other important newspapers. The leaders of ‘Time’, ‘Newsweek’, ‘Fortune’, ‘Business Week’, and numerous other publications are CFR members. The organization’s members also dominate the academic world, top corporations, the huge tax-exempt foundations, labor unions, the military, and just about every segment of American life."

Unfortunately, the Council on Foreign Relations is not the only group proposing an end to the sovereignty of the United States. In 1973, The Trilateral Commission was founded to work for the same goal: a one-world government.

The Trilateral Commission's roots stem from the book, "Between Two Ages", written by Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1970. In this book, Brzezinski praised Marxism, thought of the United States as obsolete, and praised the formation of a one-world government. His thinking closely parallels that of CFR founder Edward Mandell house.

On page 72, Brzezinski writes: "Marxism is simultaneously a victory of the external, active man over the inner, passive man and a victory of reason over belief."

On page 83, he states: "Marxism disseminated on the popular level in the form of Communism, represented a major advance in man's ability to conceptualize his relationship to his world."

On page 123, we find: "Marxism supplied the best available insight into contemporary reality."

What Mr. Brzezinski fails to tell his readers is that approximately 100 million human beings have been murdered under Marxism "in the form of Communism" just in this Twentieth Century. It has enslaved a billion more, and has been responsible for those who live in Communist-dominated countries. There is nothing like being brainwashed!

Zbigniew Brzezinski's "Between Two Ages" was published in 1970 while he was a professor in New York City. David Rockefeller read the book and, in 1973, launched the new Trilateral Commission, whose purposes include linking North America, Western Europe, and Japan "in their economic relations, their political and defense relations, their relations with developing countries, and their relations with Communist countries."

As Newell writes: "The original literature of The Trilateral Commission also states, exactly as Brzezinski's book had proposed, that the more advanced Communist States could become partners in the alliance leading to world government. In short, David Rockefeller implemented Brzezinski's proposal."

Rockefeller appointed Zbigniew Brzezinski to be the Director of The Trilateral Commission.

In 1973, Jimmy Carter became a student of Brzezinski, and a founding member of the Trilateral Commission.

On March 21, 1978, "The New York Times" featured an article about Zbigniew Brzezinski's close relationship with the President. In part, it reads: "The two men met for the first time four years ago when mr. Brzezinski was executive director of The Trilateral Commission… and had the foresight to ask the then obscure former Governor of Georgia to join its distinguished ranks. Their initial teacher-student relationship blossomed during the campaign, and appears to have grown closer still."

To think that the teacher in this relationship praised Marxism, and wanted to form a one-world government. And the student was to become ghe President of the united States.

During the 1976 political campaign, Carter repeatedly told the nation that he was going to get rid of the Establishment Insiders if he became president. But when he took office, he promptly filled his Administration with members of the Council on Foreign Relations (284 to be exact) and The Trilateral Commission, the two most prominent insider organizations in America. Included in this list of members of The Trilateral Commission were Walter Mondale and Dr. Henry Kissinger.

Beginning with Jimmy Carter, all the recent presidents, including president Clinton, have promptly filled their administrations with members of the Council on Foreign relations and The Trilateral Commission.

brzezinski is also the mentor of Obama

if you cant see the fact that liberals are fascists, and marxist..then you are blind
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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american liberals are fascists marxists...that is FACT

american liberals care NOT about the individual, but how to make you conform totheir 'society'

american liberals think not of freedom, but of regulatory CHAINS

american liberals want the SLAVERY of the people, to do their bidding

american liberals talk of the 'evil' corporations, then behind your back support those very same corporations, and have the unions (also a corporation) do their bidding



american liberal unions use their flag waving, slogans to pump up the 'nationalism' in their base...slogans like 'solidarity'

spin as much as you want..but that is what is happening.. and has been since the 1880's when the 'progressives' (liberals) started taking over the democrat party
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:48 AM
 
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Please don't confuse the progressives with pesky facts, as it will mess their arguments up.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Savoir Faire


Have you read Volume 3 of Das Kapital? Hardly anybody ever reads the third volume. Yet this is the primary source of Marx's thinking on ecology, and forms much of the basis for the modern movement for ecosocialism.
By that reasoning, Teddy Roosevelt was a Socialist.

However, the hard right throws the word "Socialism" around loosely as a curse word. Fortunately for President Obama, he is in good company. They called FDR a Socialist, who saved the nation from depression and the Nazis; JFK and Lyndon Johnson, they were both accused of a Socialist government takeover of health care, when they passed Medicare. Who called them that? None other than Ronald Reagan.

Yet, they never accused Anti-Communist Richard Nixon of being a Socialist, even though he instituted wage and price controls and passed the Clean Air and Water Acts.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:58 AM
 
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Obama is an assassin.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:00 AM
 
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I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.

/rant
I knew we would agree on something eventually, but it does not sound like Hot-Air. There are not that many differences between Bush and Obama.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:01 AM
 
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I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.

/rant
He's not a socialist, he's a fascist.

The socialist aspects of his administration and campaigns derive from the redistribution of wealth ideas that he is implementing.

The fascist aspects includes the increased goverment over the population with the spending bill, not to mention increased debt leverage over the people. Like Hitler and Mussolini in the the early 20th century, they increased government control over the people, expanded military and weapon production, and fought wars with the interest of expanding their empire.

The United States in in fact an empire and the sooner you realize that the sooner you'll understand why this country does the things they do and that "social issues" never get resolved. The sad thing is, if we truly lived in a free society where every had their full liberties and sovereign rights (not the bull**** civil rights the gov't gives to us), then we wouldn't have the social issues, beacuse no one would need to fight for more rights, everyone would have the same and all the rights they could want. There'd be no gay marriage arguments, abortion stances, immigration policies, etc. No one would care, they'd be a moot point in a country where everyone can do what they please as long as it does not harm others. The markets would regulate themselves, prices wouldn't increase and inflation wouldn't decrease the value of the dollar. Oh, and since Federal Income Tax collection is in violation of our constitutional rights, you wouldn't have to b*tch about "this is where my tax money is going?" because you wouldn't be throwing it away to a federal govt that is trillions of dollars in debt.

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Old 05-06-2011, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Research Mussolini and his idea of how a nation is run. Then compare that to Obama's ideas and agenda.
I refuse to pigeon hole 0bama, and constrain him to some strict adherence to the ideologies of the past, which were only created by some elitists to take away 0bama's freedom, and force him into being something that he is not. This is America damn it, and our presidents are free to cloak themselves in whatever form anti-Constitutional ideology they choose.
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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He's not a socialist, he's a fascist
So what are the Chinese then?
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