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I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.
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0bama a neo-conservative??? what a freaking joke.
All you need to do is watch what he does, and who he attacks, 0bama is a neo-Marxist. Just because he engages in crony capitalism does not make him into any form of a capitalist. 0bama has his own agenda, and he uses GM and GE to push his green energy down our throats, it has nothing to do with being a "corporatist hack".
Who really knows what the hell this creep is, he never follows thru on half the issues he claims he wants to see accomplished. The only area that 0bama has been consistent with is green energy and sticking his thumb in the eye of private enterprise, and increasing the power and authority of the federal government.
All you need to do is watch what he does, and who he attacks, 0bama is a neo-Marxist. Just because he engages in crony capitalism does not make him into any form of a capitalist. 0bama has his own agenda, and he uses GM and GE to push his green energy down our throats, it has nothing to do with being a "corporatist hack".
Research Mussolini and his idea of how a nation is run. Then compare that to Obama's ideas and agenda.
I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.
A primary goal of socialism is social equality and a distribution of wealth based on one's contribution to society, and an economic arrangement that would serve the interests of society as a whole.[1][2] As a form of social organization, socialism is based on relatively equal-power relations, self-management and a reduction or elimination of hierarchical forms of management in the economic structure of society.[3][4]
Obama said, "My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody."
Wow. Who would have thunk it. Obama is not a Socialist, he just has Socialistic tendencies.
I love these conservatives who benefit from socialism. Look at the red states from the Mississippi River going west. How did they get their wealth? The railroads financed by the govt. and land grants and homesteading again paid for by the govt. From the Washington Administration and the nationaliztion of the lighthouses to the present day, there has been a mix of the private sector and the public. It is as American as the flag.
It was called socialism when the Federal govt. started to help in natural disasters during the Roosevelt administration. Now I don't see any red states turing down Federal aid. I see them demanding more Army Corp of Engineers action and planning. I don't see them wanting to remove dams paid by the Federal govt. which provide their drinking water.
Have you read Volume 3 of Das Kapital? Hardly anybody ever reads the third volume. Yet this is the primary source of Marx's thinking on ecology, and forms much of the basis for the modern movement for ecosocialism.
I will see if this posts because funny how it was deleted last night.
Have you read Volume 3 of Das Kapital? Hardly anybody ever reads the third volume. Yet this is the primary source of Marx's thinking on ecology, and forms much of the basis for the modern movement for ecosocialism.
I will see if this posts because funny how it was deleted last night.
I am so embarassed as a conservative/libertarian in this country calling Obama a socialist. He is far from it. Are you all just spewing talking points, or are you putting intellectual thought into your criticisms? I am watching this Republican debate, and I know their sample size is small and doesn't cover all conservatives, but Obama IS FAR from socialist. He's a neo-conservative, corporatist hack: he is no socialist. Do the Republicans on city-data really think Obama is a socialist This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.
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like most socialist/marxist/fascist he is a GLOBALIST..which many of the neo-cons were too..like bush
obama was tutored by brzezinski..the socialist who also mentored carter, clinton, bush1, and cheney
yes he is a socialist
btw corporatism is also known as fascism
""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
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"The American people will never knowingly adopt socialism. But, under the name of 'liberalism,' they will adopt every fragment of the socialist program, until one day America will be a socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
- Norman Thomas, former U.S. Socialist Presidential Candidate
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"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." Saul alinski
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all you have to do is connect the dots
fascists BELIEVED in centralized education paid by the taxpayer
fascist were pro-union...they were against private unions wanted everybody to be part of the public union
fascists were FOR abortion (eugentics programing of the liberals)
and yes symbolism...like "hope and change" and "yes we can"
and unions are corporations
liberals = progressives = fascists
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This just sounds like uneducated, hot-air.
