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Because Reno controlled the justice deptment. I flocal police had done that for a firerams warrent and came up with that excuse they would be in prison. Not only that but the woman kiiled by the same bunch at Ruby ridge another firearm violation. Both went to town quite often and in fact that is where they did the sting to get the warrants with both.Like the miami shootout which most police agencies teach as a class on what not to do in felony stop ;they were really assaults that got alot of people killed .
Actually, Janet Reno was not the Attorney General at the time of the Waco Siege. The Mount Carmel compound at Waco came under siege on February 28, 1993. Janet Reno was not confirmed as Attorney General by the Senate until March 11, 1993.
Why don't you give us a post of yours taking Bush to task for his illegal expansion of government powers, and assaults on civil liberties?
That way we would know you are not some typical right winger who only takes up the cause of the Constitution when the GOP is out of power?
You'd really have allot of credibility then.
Guess I'll throw those questions back at you.
Is the "illegal expansion of government powers, and assaults on civil liberties" alright with you, with 0bama reauthorizing and even expanding upon them?
while you're locking up those people don't forget to add the 150 weapons and 8,000 rounds of ammo.
It's Texas. That's a starter kit for some individuals much less a compound.
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Let's not forget, that ATF had information that the compound took deliveries of inert grenade casings,
Perfectly legal. I have one.
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black powder
Hopefully it was smokeless powder. Black powder has few uses outside of black powder rifles/pistols.
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semi automatic weapons
If they really took delivery of these, then that's the only thing they did that was illegal. They should also go after the sender. Did they? Is there records of who sent the weapons?
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neighbors had reported hearing automatic weapon fire from the compound. i think you got your stand offs confused, this was about the Davidians possibly converting legal weapons to illegal weapons, I don't recall this being a "social service call"
Just because it sounds full auto, doesn't mean it is illegal. There are numerous machine gun shoots in TX where class III owners get together. Who's to say there wasn't a class III owner at the compound. Plus a semi-auto can be bump fired like the video below.
Conversion from semi-auto to full auto isn't as easy as one would think. The required parts are rare and expensive to get. Either way, after Ruby Ridge you would think the ATF would learn some lessons but I guess not. Maybe next time.
If they really took delivery of these, then that's the only thing they did that was illegal. They should also go after the sender. Did they? Is there records of who sent the weapons?
Actually, wasnt it legal to have them at that period of time? I could be wrong, but I believe the ban was passed after WACO, not before.
It's Texas. That's a starter kit for some individuals much less a compound.
Perfectly legal. I have one.
Hopefully it was smokeless powder. Black powder has few uses outside of black powder rifles/pistols.
If they really took delivery of these, then that's the only thing they did that was illegal. They should also go after the sender. Did they? Is there records of who sent the weapons?
Just because it sounds full auto, doesn't mean it is illegal. There are numerous machine gun shoots in TX where class III owners get together. Who's to say there wasn't a class III owner at the compound. Plus a semi-auto can be bump fired like the video below.
Conversion from semi-auto to full auto isn't as easy as one would think. The required parts are rare and expensive to get. Either way, after Ruby Ridge you would think the ATF would learn some lessons but I guess not. Maybe next time.
Ruby Ridge involved the US Marshals, not the ATF. Nor did the ATF obtain their warrant based upon any suspicion of illegal firearms. The ATF warrant was for drugs on the compound, a meth lab that Koresh himself reported to the local Sheriff 5 years before the Waco raid. The ATF knew it was an illegal warrant, but used it anyway.
Had the warrant been for any illegal firearms, the ATF and FBI would not have been able to use the military equipment they used in the Waco raid. Under a 1980 revision of the Posse Comitatus Act, the military may get involved in domestic law enforcement when it concerns drugs.
Actually, wasnt it legal to have them at that period of time? I could be wrong, but I believe the ban was passed after WACO, not before.
It is rare that you can accept shipments of any complete firearm via the mail or other package carrier. Most of the time they have to be sent through your local FFL.
Ruby Ridge involved the US Marshals, not the ATF. Nor did the ATF obtain their warrant based upon any suspicion of illegal firearms. The ATF warrant was for drugs on the compound, a meth lab that Koresh himself reported to the local Sheriff 5 years before the Waco raid. The ATF knew it was an illegal warrant, but used it anyway.
Had the warrant been for any illegal firearms, the ATF and FBI would not have been able to use the military equipment they used in the Waco raid. Under a 1980 revision of the Posse Comitatus Act, the military may get involved in domestic law enforcement when it concerns drugs.
All of the alphabet agencies seem to have had a hand in one or both of these. It's difficult to keep track of which one did what.
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