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Old 06-03-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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Thats explains a lot
You know, linking to your "facts" would go a long way here, rather than posting "facts" and getting into a "Nuh uh..." "Ya huh!!" battle...

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FAIL.. Bush tried to put people in homes.. There was never a demand to put those into homes that couldnt afford it. Why dont you start to post facts rather than the bs you read from a left wing blogger?
Then why did they loosen lending standards if they weren't trying to put people into homes that couldn't afford it?

Again, a few well-placed links (preferrably from somewhere other than redstate.com) would go a long way here if your claim is the opposite.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:36 AM
 
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The truth is the economy will recover when the government WANTS it to recover. They regulate and twist current markets so much they could easily solve the economic problem if they wanted to, they just don't want to. They need us to be dependent on them so they can make efforts to increase their imposition on our individual liberties.

They need us to hate muslims so they can continue wars in the middle east to colonize, monderinize, and industrialize those nations for their resources.

They need us to be suffering from high healthcare costs so we turn to them to "provide" healthcare so they can further justify nationalizing the healthcare market and increasing government size and spending.

They need us to think hard drugs are bad for us (and they are) but they lead us to believe we can't make that choice for ourselves. Instead they claim they have to protect us from ourselves and if it weren't for laws against hard drugs then the whole nation would go into a drug frenzy. Instead they need us to allow them to spend $19 Billion a year on a war on drugs which actually is a $100 Billion dollar industry (so basically they aren't even spending enough to stop it like they claim to want to do). It also allows them to inflate the prison population and government control over citizens accused of non-violent crimes.

They need us to be unemployed so that those with the wrong mindset turn to the government to make it right and help them instead of saying "government, get out of my way so I can be self sufficient and live a free life to make my own decisions and be successful"
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:37 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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I would suppress all taxes on small businesses, they create 70% of jobs in the US.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:39 AM
 
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Sure, but you can't change the unit of measure mid-stream here... (ie. Saying that under Bush unemployment was at 5% and then WHOAH LOOK!!! IT's 20% UNDER OBAMA!!!!)...
Actually its the current administration changing the unit of measurement mid-stream..

U.S. changes how it measures long-term unemployment - USATODAY.com
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:40 AM
 
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Which was why the Obama stimulus bill was doomed for failure from the start. It was propping up government spending that couldnt be substantiated rather than encouraging true growth in the economy.
Did you mean to say sustained there?

If so, there are tens of thousands of teachers, police officers, et al. that held onto jobs due to the stimulus... Maybe the stimulus ended up just putting off the inevitible in that sense though.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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What's wrong - reporting the "news" leaves a sour taste in your mouth?

Tell that to virtually every news organization that will be reporting the wonderful results of obamanomics.
I'm no Obamatron. But you seem to revel in any negative news. BTW, were you the person who repped me on the deleted post
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:42 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Which was why the Obama stimulus bill was doomed for failure from the start. It was propping up government spending that couldnt be substantiated rather than encouraging true growth in the economy.
The $275 bil or so Stimulus spending which has still about 25% waiting, was not nearly large enough. More was and still is needed.
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:42 AM
 
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You know, linking to your "facts" would go a long way here, rather than posting "facts" and getting into a "Nuh uh..." "Ya huh!!" battle...
Silly me, I assumed everyone posting here was alive during the Bush administration and thus they were aware of the reform changes and hearings held..
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Then why did they loosen lending standards if they weren't trying to put people into homes that couldn't afford it?

Again, a few well-placed links (preferrably from somewhere other than redstate.com) would go a long way here if your claim is the opposite.
Actually, if you are making the claim they loosened lending standards, then its up to you to provide links.. Not me..
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:43 AM
 
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It's Obama AND Bush. There's no difference between parties dude. They both do the same things, they just get there differently.

Democrats - welfare

Republicans - warfare

Both increase government, spending, inflation, corruption, bureacracy, special interests, regulation, violate individual liberties
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Old 06-03-2011, 07:44 AM
 
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The $200 bil or so Stimulus spending which has still about 25% waiting, was not nearly large enough. More was and still is needed.
yeah, thats it, we need to drain even more money out of the economy.. Here is a suggestion, why dont we drain $15T out of the economy? Not only could we pay off the national debt in one big swoop, but think about how much money would be just flying around..

Could it get any funnier.. Wait, we could do $20T, yeah, that'll be histerical.. haha
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