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If you are saying "ax" rather than "ask," it doesn't make any difference whether you're black, white, or green with purple stripes. You're either ignorant or lazy--it's possible to be both, I guess--and you need to be corrected.
I've got a bunch of co-workers who believe the holiday that falls on February 14 is called Valentime's Day. And who would've imagined--they think I'm crazy when I correct them. (The word "February," of course, is an entire issue unto itself.)
However, White people mispronouncing words like "library" as "lye-berry" is acceptable
That's not a matter of laziness because both "ax" and "Valentime" are just as hard to articulate on the tongue as "ask" and "Valentine". It's just a matter of variation in pronunciation.
The stigma behind nonstandard dialects runs so deep, people can't even see their own bias.
The truth. White people tend to "overlook" the errors prduced in the speech of other White people yet errors produced by Blacks are somehow "lazy" and "ignorant".
That's not a matter of laziness because both "ax" and "Valentime" are just as hard to articulate on the tongue as "ask" and "Valentine". It's just a matter of variation in pronunciation.
The stigma behind nonstandard dialects runs so deep, people can't even see their own bias.
O.K. then I guess the question is:
When is it "mispronunciation" and when is it "conscious use of 'nonstandard dialect'"?
I mean if I say, "4+4=9" am I simply using "nonstandard addition?"
The truth. White people tend to "overlook" the errors prduced in the speech of other White people yet errors produced by Blacks are somehow "lazy" and "ignorant".
Yeah, because you NEVER hear a northern white comedian make fun of "hillbilly culture".
Isn't "Larry the Cable Guy" a millionaire because of his success doing just that?
When is it "mispronunciation" and when is it "conscious use of 'nonstandard dialect'"?
I mean if I say, "4+4=9" am I simply using "nonstandard addition?"
Linguistics is a different field from math entirely. The comparison doesn't hold.
In linguistics, there is such thing as a slip of the tongue (and even a slip of the hand in signed languages). That's a mispronunciation.
If someone regularly pronounces something differently, then it's not a mispronunciation--it's a dialect variation. For example if someone always says "ide-er" for "idea" then they aren't mispronouncing it, that is just the way they say it in their dialect. If someone always says "y'all" for "you all," that's also a dialect variation and not a mispronunciation because they say it that way pretty much every time, and consciously, intentionally make the sounds to produce that word.
A mispronunciation (or slip of the tongue) is when someone unintentionally and unconsciously pronounces something differently, that falls out of pattern with the predicted pronunciation for the dialect they are speaking, that happens once or only as often as we might accidentally say "battering avage" instead of "batting average".
The truth. White people tend to "overlook" the errors prduced in the speech of other White people yet errors produced by Blacks are somehow "lazy" and "ignorant".
Ummmm. Not true did you not watch the video! If so maybe another would help you out with understanding what he is doing and what he is saying. And how important it is for our black youth to understand so they can become competitive in the workplace.
Is the way blacks in urban America speak the new "steppen fetchit" dialect? In the 1960's Black Actors like Diana Carol and Greg Morris spoke just like their white counter parts. Even Max Julian portraying a pimp spoke like his white counter parts. In contrast; Ice T LL Cool J,Queen Latifa, Sherry Sheppard,Whoopie and a everyone are scripted to not talk "White" and to be that wise cracking sassy mama or Dude.
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I have no problem with the Black man in the video. It is obvious that his intentions are benevolent. It is the usual chorus of anti-Black posters with whom I have pointed out as the problem.
The real issue is that the main people posting in this thread (as with all of the Black bash threads) don't give a damn about whether or not Black people who speak AAVE are able to correct specific phonological errors or if they are able properly code switch. They see an anti-Black thread and pop on in to add their bigoted viewpoint to the discussion, nothing more.
I don't know what AAVE is.
It's not a phonological error...it's ignorant and they get it from their friends b/c they think it's cool.
Code switching...when I sit and listen to a black person speak for any length of time and he is speaking proper English, then I hear "ax" come out, that is not a code switching problem, nor is it a phonological error. It's ignorance. Anyone with even a high school education should know how to pronounce "ask." It's three letters, one syllable. Seriously.
I'm soooo sick of every time there is something negative pointed out about the black population, everyone who agrees or understands is automatically anti-black, racist, bigoted, etc.
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