Can We All Agree That Barack Obama Is Not a Leader? (employment, drug)
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Actually, i've accomplished what I set out to accomplish with this thread. What i've found is:
1) Most contributors agree that the President does not possess the qualities of a true leader. Even his most ardent supporters have not came out to counter my assertion.
2) Those who support the President, such as yourself, confuse policy with leadership capability. I do not agree with the President's policy. But I am more than willing to give him credit where credit is due. You happen to think that his policies indicate strong leadership. Compared to the many, many true leaders that have inspired people across this world, Barack Obama simply doesn't pass muster. You disagree, and that's ok. That doesn't mean you're right though.
My argument doesn't mean I'm objectively correct. BUt so far, you've made no argument at all. That makes you even less correct.
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PS..I would hardly call your rebuttal "substantive" in the context of rebutting the meaning of true leadership. It appears that you're not aware of what a true leader actually is. All you've done is say that you agree with his policy. That's it. I"m not surprised.
Oh by all means, regale us with your definition of leadership, wise one.
Obama is a classic example of someone who is all form, and no substance. He has no leadership qualities except he 'looks' like a leader on the outside.
Bush is a classic example of someone who leads in the wrong direction.
This was in response to a post by aero that was apparently deleted.
Perhaps he had 2nd thoughts after that witless diatribe.
No, actually its because the multi-quote function got screwed up after I typed a thorough response. Instead of creating a mess, I just deleted it. Sorry to burst your bubble. You're really not as good as you think you are.
Obama is a classic example of someone who is all form, and no substance. He has no leadership qualities except he 'looks' like a leader on the outside.
Bush is a classic example of someone who leads in the wrong direction.
Of the 2 poor examples, I would prefer Obama.
In some perverse way, I agree with your assessment. I was wondering what you thought of Clinton regarding leadership? These days, I'm having a hard time remembering those years!
No, actually its because the multi-quote function got screwed up after I typed a thorough response. Instead of creating a mess, I just deleted it. Sorry to burst your bubble. You're really not as good as you think you are.
I don't think I'm all that great. Just pretty damned awesome compared to you.
Sorry, this is just stupid and deserves no response otherwise.
Cool, let the hundreds of people at the Congressional Budget Office know that they're stupid, then.
Let me guess, if you did have the sack to rebut my statement, you'd bring to the fore something in relation to Obama's increase of the deficit over the past 2 years citing numbers from.....wait for it....
Cool, let the hundreds of people at the Congressional Budget Office know that they're stupid, then.
Let me guess, if you did have the sack to rebut my statement, you'd bring to the fore something in relation to Obama's increase of the deficit over the past 2 years citing numbers from.....wait for it....
The CBO.
Are you even reading what you wrote? I'm guessing not....somehow you've transposed fiscal conservatism onto the healthcare reform bill while citing the CBO to conclude in some convoluted way that I must agree with Obamacare.
Yeah, you're really not as good as you think you are. Otherwise stupidity such as this would have never left your keyboard.
"Can We All Agree That Barack Obama Is Not a Leader?"
No, and considering the source of the thread why on earth would we agree?
Forget the source. Tell me why you believe he qualifies as a true leader. Who would you compare him to? We wouldn't be having this debate if he actually was a true leader, right? Or wrong? Shouldn't his approval rating be more positive if he in fact was a leader? Tell me why you think differently.
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