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Why do you try to control everybody's personal decisions? I do not support people doing things that infringe on other people's rights to life, liberty and property. But if I want to smoke in my own house, why can't I? If I want to ride a motorcycle without a helmet, why can't I? If I want to go eat at McDonald's every day, why does that make you want to start burning effigies of Ronald McDonald in front of their headquarters?
I've just never understood the nanny-state mentality I suppose. I remember seeing a comment in the newspaper about how the CDC predicts all states will have indoor (for restaurants, etc) smoking bans in 20 years. The fascist said something to the effect of "Some people are too stupid for their own good." Hah, first off, plenty of intelligent people do this "stupid" thing, but secondly who the hell are you to decide what I can and cannot do?
I know there are some of you out there, so again I ask you to explain why you think you should be on this crusade to end all bad things.
As the late Bill Hicks said, "I'll smoke, I'll cough, I'll get the tumors, I'll die. Deal?" And that applies to pretty much anything the nanny-statists want to ban.
Because someday you might require healthcare for all the bad decisions you made in life (Smoking: cancer, Fast food: some food related illness such as diabetes or heart disease) and I don't want to pay for your bad decisions if I can prevent them.
Because someday you might require healthcare for all the bad decisions you made in life (Smoking: cancer, Fast food: some food related illness such as diabetes or heart disease) and I don't want to pay for your bad decisions if I can prevent them.
too bad, that is what the taxes are paid for into socialized security, medicaid and medicare. if the feds dont want to pay it, then stop stealing the money.
Because someday you might require healthcare for all the bad decisions you made in life (Smoking: cancer, Fast food: some food related illness such as diabetes or heart disease) and I don't want to pay for your bad decisions if I can prevent them.
Yeah, exactly. That's another reason that taxpayer funded health care restricts us. Where does it end?
If you support UHC then it only stands to reason that you should support a ban of anything unhealthy.
This is the problem. They want to force people on to government health care, then they use that as an excuse to control them further. It's pretty brilliant if you think about it.
This is the problem. They want to force people on to government health care, then they use that as an excuse to control them further. It's pretty brilliant if you think about it.
sorry, I for one will not be buying into any UC and neither will my family. as a result, we carry our medical and dental records with us when we go to the doctor.
Well perhaps it's because a civilized society hasn't quite learned to simply ignore your lack of well being if you become ill through your indulgence.
it's one thing to say you should have the right but it's another when the pool of money known as tax-payer's funds are used to treat any illness or injury you might sustain through your exercising your 'rights'. We haven't gotten to that stage yet where we can say "George decided to ride his Harley without a helmet and sustained a brain injury so we don't have to treat him". While Charley fell off a scaffolding and broke his back but we will treat him because he was observing all OSHA requirements."
It's fine to EXPECT nanny state compassion when you NEED it but to also rail against that very nanny state that implements basic rules that seem to be needed because people have proven they cannot think and behave responsibly is sorta "wanting your cake and eating it too".
it was turned into a nanny state BY the government when the government implemented free mandatory ER treatment for everybody, regardless of reason.
perhaps the government is actually at fault here. if people who engaged in bad behavior were held responsible for their own bad decisions, it might alter behavior over time better than a nanny state which restricts everyone's freedom.
forced universal health care insurance is just another step in taking away freedom of choice for americans.
observe the world. countries fail economically when they lose their freedom, and that is a fact.
Because someday you might require healthcare for all the bad decisions you made in life (Smoking: cancer, Fast food: some food related illness such as diabetes or heart disease) and I don't want to pay for your bad decisions if I can prevent them.
You make a great case for people being responsible for their own healthcare.
You make a great case for people being responsible for their own healthcare.
I wouldn't have that big of a problem with it if so many in the healthcare industry were not there trying to get rich. One of the reasons we need health insurance is that by ourselves we cannot afford to pay for healthcare on our own. It doesn't stop there. When people with private health insurance via their jobs are getting priced out of the market, I think there is a big problem that universal health care is meant to correct.
I also don't consider it a freedom to allow someone to become addicted to cigarettes or consume food that is more harmful then nutritious.
If we're going to say that we have to make laws because a poor decision might cost other people money through healthcare costs, and we're also going to say that people must buy health insurance, can we do the following?
Mandate that people invest a portion of their money into an investment account for retirement? When they make a poor decision not to, it costs everyone else money. In addition, we can now tell people they have to purchase insurance, why not mutual funds or bonds etc.?
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