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Old 08-24-2011, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Yep! I recall Tropic of Cancer and Clan of the Cave Bear being super risque back in the day, and they described some pretty graphic stuff... but LOTS of teens still read them, and somehow managed to survive the experience. We also didn't have the internet to "educate" us, so we had to learn the old-fashioned way. ."
What about Lolita or Flowers in the Attic!??? Or The Prince of Tides?
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:38 AM
 
Location: South East
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This stuff doesn't belong in a school library. period.
This ^^ 100%!!!

This junk has NO place in a school library, yet alone on a required reading list. That is unacceptable. Period. For anyone to try to deflect and say differently is ridiculous.

The libs have destroyed public education in a lot of areas. It is sad. This is why I have chosen to put my child in private education.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:42 AM
 
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How could a high schooler be a pedophile? Talk about deflection, LOL. I'll have to get back to you on those specific titles, but most "gay-related" books that make it into school libraries (and public YA collections) are completely age-appropriate... usually mentioning nothing more graphic than your typical teen book, but some people find it more graphic based on homosexual content alone. A kiss between young Romeo & Juliet is romantic, but a kiss between Davey & John is somehow disgusting porn - go figure.
Let's see what the fuss is all about?

Oh.

Nothing.

Talk about mountains out of molehills. Some people will find "the evil gay agenda" in anything.

The books aren't even "gay related", let alone books about gay people or gay sex.

Looks like an interesting book for teens.

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With Norwegian Wood Murakami, best known as the author of off-kilter classics such as the Wind Up Bird Chronicle, A Wild Sheep Chase and Hard Boiled Wonderland, finally achieved widespread acclaim in his native Japan. The novel sold upwards of 4 million copies and forced the author to retreat to Europe, fearful of the expectations accompanying his new-found cult status.

The novel is atypical for Murakami: seemingly autobiographical, in the tradition of many Japanese "I" novels, Norwegian Wood is a simple coming of age tale set, primarily, in 1969/70, the time of Murakami's own university years. The political upheavals and student strikes of the period form the backdrop of the novel but the focus here is the young Watanabe's love affairs and the pain (and pleasure) of growing up with all its attendant losses, (self-)obsessions and crises.

And the novel is hugely affecting, reading like a cross between Plath's Bell Jar and Vizinczey's In Praise of Older Women, if less complex and ultimately less satisfying than Murakami's other, more allegorical, work. He captures the huge expectation of youth, and of this particular time in history, for the future and for the place of love in it. He also saturates the work with sadness, an emotion that can cripple a novel but which here underscores the poignancy of the work's rather thin subject matter
This one too:
Teenreads.com -- TWEAK: Growing Up on Methamphetamines by Nic Sheff

Might help some teens from going doing the same path of drug use.

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Old 08-24-2011, 06:47 AM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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...people like you can handle.
"People like you"? And that would be who, parents with a moral compass who are interested in their child's education rather than turning it over to the libs who are seeking to indoctrinate young minds with the "anything goes" mentality?

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Stop spewing garbage about things you don't understand, and please get over your obsession with homosexuality already. Seriously, it's weird.
No, what's weird is trying to put into young minds that type of garbage listed in the article. There's where the garbage lies.

Not with my child!
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:50 AM
 
Location: South East
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"People like you"? And that would be who, parents with a moral compass who are interested in their child's education rather than turning it over to the libs who are seeking to indoctrinate young minds with the "anything goes" mentality?



No, what's weird is trying to put into young minds that type of garbage listed in the article. There's where the garbage lies.

Not with my child!
VERY well said!!
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:52 AM
 
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Weak effort at deflection. We are not talking about books that mention "gayness." Reread the thread title and try reading the link. The books deal with orgies and sexual relations between adults and children. Truthfully, I don't care if a pedophile feels "ashamed," and I don't feel the need to provide books for him/her.
No. They don't. Try reading a review of the books.

Sheesh. You'll believe anything, anything at all, if you think you can use it on your anti-gay "smear and fear" campaign.


Talk about "agendas" ..

Have a look at your own.
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Old 08-24-2011, 06:57 AM
 
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"People like you"? And that would be who, parents with a moral compass who are interested in their child's education rather than turning it over to the libs who are seeking to indoctrinate young minds with the "anything goes" mentality?



No, what's weird is trying to put into young minds that type of garbage listed in the article. There's where the garbage lies.

Not with my child!
I agree completely. Those pushing the homosexual agenda try to make those opposed to their depraved life styles appear to be the "weird" ones. It's transparently ridiculous and everyone recognises it.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:02 AM
 
Location: South East
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I agree completely. Those pushing the homosexual agenda try to make those opposed to their depraved life styles appear to be the "weird" ones. It's transparently ridiculous and everyone recognises it.

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Old 08-24-2011, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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There is no way this type of thing should be in public schools. This is not a narrow-minded view as others put it, this is a view of a parent who looks at all sides and makes an informed decision based on what he knows and what he wants his kids to learn about.

We are teaching our children that whole some people choose the homosexual lifestyle that it is not an acceptable lifestyle for our family. If you are so close-minded as not to accept that some people view lifestyles in this way, then get over yourself. We try to teach our kids the difference between right and wrong and while you may have the urge to hit someone or steal, you cannot always act on those urges.

Having books in the school library that are on an acceptable reading list that promote this is just plain wrong. Let the parents decide what is proper for their kids, not the screwed up agendas of a few people or the state. It just means that we as parents need to be very diligent in monitoring what is presented to our kids and teach them that this form of indoctrination is wrong.
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Old 08-24-2011, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Wow, what a ridiculous thread. Props to Gizmo for his/her work as a librarian.
Pretty much this.

I don't exactly see anything wrong with these books.

And yes, I am a parent.
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