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Do you really not understand the difference between voluntary participation and state sponsored coecion? Or do you choose to ignore it because your violent agenda (yes, coercion is a form of violence) to push deviant sexual behavior onto children via state institutions which infringes upon the rights and liberties of the individual runs counter to it?
Tolerance?
Who do you think signs these children up for camp? Who do you think pays for it and brings them there and picks them up?
I didn't say that I am for putting an agenda on anyone else's children. I am not denying that the Left does it. My only point is that both Left and Right people do it. And people in the Center. Everyone does it. Most people stick to their own children. The more extremist members of any ideology try to indoctrinate other people's children as well. Some deny it's indoctrination, whereas others are shameless and admit right out that's what they're doing. But it's hardly a phenomenon specific to the American Left. It's common to all of humanity.
Is that a serious question or do you really not know what an agenda is? Although to not understand what an agenda is to me seems monumentally stupid, I'll take you at face value and assume you are being honest about your ignorance and not provocative.
/[SIZE=3]əˈdʒɛndə[/SIZE]/ Show Spelled[uh-jen-duh] Show IPA noun, formally a plural of agendum, but usually used as a singular with plural -das or -da. a list, plan, outline, or the like, of things to be done, matters to be acted or voted upon, etc.: The chairman says we have a lengthy agenda this afternoon.
Thanks for the definition of "agenda" , but I prefer Merriam Webster myself.
Of course it was not a serious question as there is no "Gay Agenda". Thanks for the link, that's a cool blog.
Please give me reputable links to show "gay activists trying to impose their value system on OPC". Or are you talking about teaching little homophobes-in-training not to beat up on kids with 2 moms or 2 dads?
Most children aren't homophobic until it's been taught to them by the adults around them that gay is wrong. In other words, "two guys pounding each other's rectums" being wrong...is not obvious to a child.
Perhaps now would be a good time to tell you that the food pyramid is no longer recommended. MyPlate has replaced it, and I think it is a vast improvement.
I have gay family members who I love just as much after they come out as before. I dont know if they can be gay and go to heaven, fortunately for me it aint my job to judge. I know if I suddenly decided to be gay, which I dont really think I can, that would be a sin for me. I see no upside to raising children to have a lower opinion of people who are gay. If gay adults want to get married what possible buisness of that is mine?
Disgust towards homosexuality in particular is learned. Most children are neutral towards most abstract concepts. To a child homosexuality is a pretty abstract concept--they are not envisioning anal sex when they think homosexuality, contrary to how some posters described homosexuality in this very thread (ETA: I just realized that was your post.)
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Two guys pounding each other's rectums
I'm gay myself and I find that imagery pretty repulsive. Yes, if that's the only idea your child has of homosexuality, they will be disgusted. That depiction of homosexuality gives it a violent slant. I'm pretty sure they would be equally disgusted by "a man pounding his penis into a woman's vagina" too. However if you describe homosexuality as "two men or women in love just like mommy and daddy love each other" I doubt they would have the same automatic reaction of disgust.
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vaginal intercourse leading to conception and birth
This is a relatively neutral, albeit slightly graphic, depiction of heterosexuality. I wouldn't be surprised if a child was slightly disgusted at the mention of "vaginal intercourse" but I am pretty sure that a child wouldn't be disgusted by "a man and woman in love."
Whatever consenting adults do is one thing.
Indoctrinating children under the guise of education is another.
So throw your insults, slander and reverse logic all you want but it does not change the fact that you represent an aggressive minority using the state to indoctrinate children to the idea that your perversion is mainstream, normal and a healthy family friendly lifestyle.
Again, if your values are sound, then you have nothing to worry about. If you are at all successful as a parent, then your children are in no danger of being "indoctrinated".
And after reading numerous posts by you on this particular subject, it is my opinion that you are a bigot, just as it is your opinion that being gay is a perversion. I am as entitled to my opinion as you are to yours.
Because I am tolerant of one group, that does not mean I have to be tolerant of your group. I am not accepting across the board. When it comes to homophobic Chicken Littles, I am just as bigoted as you.
First of all, thanks for the civil discourse in your post.
I think there is a large amount of misinformation when it comes to children's health, most of it from the government. The food pyramid is largely wrong in the fact that it promotes far too many carbohydrates for people and especially kids in general. We have processed sugars in everything we eat and so much of this is due to government regulations (see the other thread on the woman whose natural ice-cream is being regulated by the feds). People can say they are educated, but they are not. Recent studies conducted at the Univ of CT have shown that diets high in fat do not increase heart disease and in fact people on these diets lost weight simply by eliminating or reducing carbs. The government is certainly the one providing bad information here.
As far as kids and sex, how much of what kids see today on TV or in mainstream society revolves around sex? And if a parent or a group of parents were to step forward to say anything about this, they are considered prudes or censors or bigots? I don't think it is a leftist plot by any stretch but it has been shown that kids from stronger families are less likely to be promiscuous or having sex or even using drugs.
Turn off the TV and cook meals for your children!
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, but I prefer Merriam Webster myself.
