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View Poll Results: What should airport security in America look like?
No security at all. Let's preserve our freedom. 9 15.52%
Reduced security. The guys with the box cutters and shoe bombs may have gotten through, but we should just live with that risk. 26 44.83%
Same level of security as now. I'd rather sacrifice some freedom in the security line for the odds of a safer flight. 19 32.76%
Greater security. Let's reduce the risk as much as humanly possible at the expense of personal freedom. 4 6.90%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-10-2012, 08:32 PM
 
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Just spend the time and money, get your pilots license and fly yourself.

Problem solved.

I fly a lot. A WHOLE LOT. And TSA has never really been a problem for me, I've never been searched and have never had to go into one of those scanners. I also fly myself around pretty often and simply walking out to your plane and taking off without so much as a goodbye from the receptionist at the FBO is also pretty awesome.
People like you are an aviation security hazard. I think the next area that the TSA should focus on is General Aviation and regulate this tightly. The TSA has been studying this for the last few years and there may be some role for the TSA in GA in the future.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:33 PM
 
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This world and its ever-increasing, genius technology and our world population have and will absolutely guarantee that we can never prevent all crimes or terrorism. Good grief! No, we should not increase security if being felt-off by strangers is what we now call "security."

Our founders "got it." Never mind how the world has changed. If it's our time to go, it just is. Would we all prefer laying and rotting a year or more with cancer? Do we each and every one prefer "quantity of life" over "quality of life?" Are each and every one of us totally void of faith in God?

Stuff happens and yes I value my freedom above my safety. I do a sorry job of "serving God" but my faith is not, has not been and cannot be reduced by the dangers of our modern era.

With the advancements "Big Sis" has made in this so-called security issue I need to say it again. We are just one "loaded tampon" away from some stupid swine in some govt. office daring to suggest GYN stirrups at airports.

They are that nutty, and probably some of those at the very top are clinking their martini glasses together after-hours and laughing heartily at how the American people are mostly bowing, obeying and taking this crap.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:36 PM
 
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This world and its ever-increasing, genius technology and our world population have and will absolutely guarantee that we can never prevent all crimes or terrorism. Good grief! No, we should not increase security if being felt-off by strangers is what we now call "security."

Our founders "got it." Never mind how the world has changed. If it's our time to go, it just is. Would we all prefer laying and rotting a year or more with cancer? Do we each and every one prefer "quantity of life" over "quality of life?" Are each and every one of us totally void of faith in God?

Stuff happens and yes I value my freedom above my safety. I do a sorry job of "serving God" but my faith is not, has not been and cannot be reduced by the dangers of our modern era.

With the advancements "Big Sis" has made in this so-called security issue I need to say it again. We are just one "loaded tampon" away from some stupid swine in some govt. office daring to suggest GYN stirrups at airports.

They are that nutty, and probably some of those at the very top are clinking their martini glasses together after-hours and laughing heartily at how the American people are mostly bowing, obeying and taking this crap.
This can be avoided by making passengers walk through a more powerful body scanner. If they decline, it's unfortunate but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:42 PM
 
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This entire issue can be avoided by the majority of freedom-loving Americans growing some "bowling apparatus" and refusing to "play along."

THEY Obey us, we don't obey them is the attitude that is needed.
This govt.-run-amuck belongs to "we, the people."

I pray it never requires violence to put them in their places and take our rightful ones.
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Old 01-10-2012, 08:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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This can be avoided by making passengers walk through a more powerful body scanner. If they decline, it's unfortunate but I'd rather be safe than sorry.

I think you would fit nicely in Hitler's Germany.
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Old 01-10-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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People like you are an aviation security hazard. I think the next area that the TSA should focus on is General Aviation and regulate this tightly. The TSA has been studying this for the last few years and there may be some role for the TSA in GA in the future.

I honestly doubt the TSA will barge in on General Aviation anytime soon. I hate to say it, but wealthy people get their way and the majority of people involved in GA are wealthy. They aren't little guys like me who rent a plane here and there, but are business owners, celebrities, entrepreneurs, and sports stars with multi million dollar jets and they DEMAND privacy.

We go through enough FAA crap to even be able to fly ourselves, I'd love to see the sh*tstorm that happens if the TSA tried to regulate GA
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:33 PM
 
Location: California
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I'm good with pre 9/11 security, maybe tweaked a bit. This is rediculous.
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:41 PM
 
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And folks, this is how you make changes..slowly over time. The above poster only knows airport security since 9/11 and accepts it as the norm.
You are correct. We now have a whole generation who don't know any different, this is the only way they have ever flown and view it as normal.

They have never known what it is like to simply go to the airport to see off loved ones or greet them as they are arriving. Yes, there was a time when you could actually go all the way to the gate to just watch departures and arrivals. They have never known what it is like to go to the airport and simply board a plane without going through any type of security, taking off your belt, shoes, jewelry, jackets, sweaters, pulling your laptop out of its case, not being able to take fluids or gels or insert new item here, and not knowing from one airport to the next what will be acceptable in your carryon luggage as the rules seem to change mid-flight. Then, once you get through security and are ready to board, you could be pulled off to the side to be checked again in front of everyone else boarding if your ticket is marked for an additional random search and pat down. And on top of all this, you have the pat downs and xray machines. You can put me in the category for no more TSA.
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Old 01-11-2012, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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You are correct. We now have a whole generation who don't know any different, this is the only way they have ever flown and view it as normal.

They have never known what it is like to simply go to the airport to see off loved ones or greet them as they are arriving. Yes, there was a time when you could actually go all the way to the gate to just watch departures and arrivals. They have never known what it is like to go to the airport and simply board a plane without going through any type of security, taking off your belt, shoes, jewelry, jackets, sweaters, pulling your laptop out of its case, not being able to take fluids or gels or insert new item here, and not knowing from one airport to the next what will be acceptable in your carryon luggage as the rules seem to change mid-flight. Then, once you get through security and are ready to board, you could be pulled off to the side to be checked again in front of everyone else boarding if your ticket is marked for an additional random search and pat down. And on top of all this, you have the pat downs and xray machines. You can put me in the category for no more TSA.

Agree. It's time to roll back security. 911 will never happen again since pilots will never allow terrorists to take over a plane. The solution was quite simple; first, put a strong door between the cockpit and the passengers, and second, train pilots to not open the door for any reason whatsoever.

Those two changes solved the problem. TSA is not needed at all.
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Old 01-11-2012, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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By doing something effective but NOT invasive.
That is what I call shooting in the dark, nothing concrete but a non-answer. Can airport security be improved? I'm sure, but that it can't be accomplished without privatization of people's security, is as lame as it gets.
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