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The security has not bothered me.
Sure, it is a bit of an annoyance and you can't carry some stuff on the plane. I have to check baggage when I need to take my tools along.
But if it stops just one loony from taking one plane full of passengers, it probably is worth the annoyance.
The security has not bothered me.
Sure, it is a bit of an annoyance and you can't carry some stuff on the plane. I have to check baggage when I need to take my tools along.
But if it stops just one loony from taking one plane full of passengers, it probably is worth the annoyance.
Yep. Reminds me of an episode in India. We ended up catching a return flight on a day when Hajj pilgrims were also leaving. Consequently, the airport security was overloaded. As is my habit, I wear shoes, shirt and pants that are immune from triggering the detectors. I remember to put my watch, keys, phone etc either in the carry on, or on the basket.
Then there was another guy, likely Brit, who literally got unzipped and groped for triggering the metal detector every time. He could have been smarter than that.
How many security guards are on a $60 Million aircraft?
None. That's why you have the mess you have.
The first hijacking was in the 1950s, I think 1958, and it was a guy who dropped out of school in the 6th grade. The point is that cockpits have always been vulnerable, and 50 years after the first high-jacking you still don't have ****-pit doors that are properly secured.
TSA: Federal Air Marshals (http://www.tsa.gov/lawenforcement/programs/fams.shtm - broken link)
2. A bunch of people who are afraid of dogs will refuse to have dogs near them
3. Refuses of dog sniffing will instead need to have an enhanced pat down.
4. Said people will then come on this forum and get all dramatic about having a pat down they were sexually assaulted etc.
And I submit anyone who regards security procedures as "humiliation" either has self-esteem issues or a massive chip on their shoulder.
Airports already use dogs for cargo and drugs, and the FDA's beagles are let off leash to sniff suitcases. The only problems happen where they aren't is when there are dogs traveling who cause them. And the dog doesn't have to smell you personally. My dog barks at the back door when the neighbors cats try to visit so he can chase them out with the length of a house between them.
If the dog doesn't aleart then they wouldn't need to even be bothered. And yes, what they do IS an assault. Espeically to kids, it would get them charged if they didn't have their bluesuits on them.
Here's what I'd like to know: since TSA was established, how many actual terrorists (not rumored ones, or people carrying a knife in their back pocket) have been apprehended before boarding a plane?
Their job is not to stop terrorists, it is to attempt to prevent people from bringing potential weapons onto airplanes.
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Originally Posted by hooligan
I have flown 50 weeks a year for the past 3 years. I have absolutely zero problems with security, including the backscatter x-ray - you're exposed to more radiation in flight than during the x-ray and I could care less how much they can/can't see in the x-ray room.
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Originally Posted by LarsMac
The security has not bothered me.
I fly for business too and have same sentiment. I'd wager most passengers feel the same way, it is the vocal minority who feel oppressed. Interesting = Nightbird47 spends so much time posting about the TSA molestations/humiliation/injustice/oppression but has stated previously she doesn't even fly and has never personally experienced the process. Just an armchair activist with righteous cause.
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Originally Posted by nightbird47
And the dog doesn't have to smell you personally. My dog barks at the back door when the neighbors cats try to visit so he can chase them out with the length of a house between them.
Complete nonsense, I've had dogs check me overseas and they walk right around you. Tell me, when you see dogs checking luggage do they do it from across the room? Nope, they go up to the luggage.
It seems that a common theme is that the TSA is a bunch of goose-stepping Nazis bent on taking away our freedom. So...what should the alternative look like? Should we can the whole thing and just let anyone with a ticket get on the plane, no questions asked? Or should we go back to the same security setup that let those guys with box cutters onto planes? What's the better setup?
You missed the point with your post and your poll. You should have included letting each airline setup their own security, through the private sector, instead of having the public pay for it.
Government caused this mess yet again. If pilots were allowed to carry guns do you think the box cutters would have worked?
We saw the same situtation with the hijacking of a boat by pirates. They were unable to defend themselves since they could not carry weapons. I believe it was the Navy Seals snipers who killed a few then the rest gave themselves up.
Technically, pilots are allowed to be armed, through the FFDO program. Most don't bother however, as TSA has made it a real pain in the arse. Many who used to be FFDO's are no longer thanks to the hassles, so armed pilots are very much a minority. However, cockpit doors are secure and bulletproof. I'm sure most knew these things, but it seems there may be some who don't.
Yep. Reminds me of an episode in India. We ended up catching a return flight on a day when Hajj pilgrims were also leaving. Consequently, the airport security was overloaded. As is my habit, I wear shoes, shirt and pants that are immune from triggering the detectors. I remember to put my watch, keys, phone etc either in the carry on, or on the basket.
Then there was another guy, likely Brit, who literally got unzipped and groped for triggering the metal detector every time. He could have been smarter than that.
Lol, the folks complaining are probably like that Brit. It annoys me to hear them constantly complain about liberty, freedom, rights, the constituition etc.
I wish they would get this into their thick skulls that 9/11 changed our world and there are no rights at the checkpoint. To those people who whine and complain: Shut your mouth, take off your shoes and get in line like everyone else!
WE have been fondled, had our children fondled, had our luggage searched and contents stolen, required people to remove prognostics, under-wire bras, even intimate piercings, sent children into hysterics because they had to give up their sippy cup of juice, etc., etc., etc.......
And we have caught a grand total of 0 (big fat zero) terrorists.
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