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Old 01-30-2012, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Originally Posted by Memphis1979 View Post
You complain about this tax cut, but did you think we should keep tax breaks for corporate jets.

The truth is most people get by on whatever money they have.

But Republicans are always for tax breaks for the wealthy, which don't seem to translate to jobs either.

The fact is if we are going to put our debt in a controlled level, we are going to have to cut spending AND raise taxes.
You know for all the Dem talking points about the Repubs..NOT A ONE has asked the IRS to restructure corporate taxes.

Corporations pay corporate taxes. Individuals pay income taxes.
Those corporate jets are owned by the corporation, not the person so they pulled a quick one on you.

Congress is not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Neither D nor R will do anything to upset corporate America.
Don't you see that yet ?

"People" don't create jobs..companies do based on supply and demand.
If people have no money to spend then there is no demand. If there is no demand then there are no new jobs.

Current jobs are being offshored as emerging nations become educated with college degrees and their infrastructure is built up.

It's called progress. You either become a global player or get left behind in the dust.

Looks like we're in deep denial here about globalism and what it means to the US. You can't undo what's been happening for the past 20+ years.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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You know for all the Dem talking points about the Repubs..NOT A ONE has asked the IRS to restructure corporate taxes.

Corporations pay corporate taxes. Individuals pay income taxes.
Those corporate jets are owned by the corporation, not the person so they pulled a quick one on you.

Congress is not going to bite the hand that feeds them.
Neither D nor R will do anything to upset corporate America.
Don't you see that yet ?

"People" don't create jobs..companies do based on supply and demand.
If people have no money to spend then there is no demand. If there is no demand then there are no new jobs.

Current jobs are being offshored as emerging nations become educated with college degrees and their infrastructure is built up.

It's called progress. You either become a global player or get left behind in the dust.

Looks like we're in deep denial here about globalism and what it means to the US. You can't undo what's been happening for the past 20+ years.
Ummmmmmm

Obama Opens Door to Lower Corporate Tax Rates - WSJ.com

The WSJ isn't exactly "liberal"
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Ummmmmmm

Obama Opens Door to Lower Corporate Tax Rates - WSJ.com

The WSJ isn't exactly "liberal"
Talk is cheap but nothing came of it.
They all talk up a storm and tell us what we want to hear.
It's what they DO though that counts.

What I meant by my comment about Dem talking points on Repubs is that the Dems constantly talk of how the Repubs like the rich when the Dems also like the rich. All the Dems are doing is deflecting blame. Both are to blame as both are bought out by big business.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Talk is cheap but nothing came of it.
They all talk up a storm and tell us what we want to hear.
It's what they DO though that counts.
He said he wanted to lower corporate taxes, and close loopholes. He put that out there. Now the house writes legislation don't they? Why don't they take him up on the offer.

In essence, this is what you just did.

You make a false claim, Obama or any liberal won't simplify the tax rate.

I shoot that down with FACTS

Then you say its his fault it isn't done.

You do know this is a divided government, and congress also has to pass changes like that first, right?
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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He said he wanted to lower corporate taxes, and close loopholes. He put that out there. Now the house writes legislation don't they? Why don't they take him up on the offer.

In essence, this is what you just did.

You make a false claim, Obama or any liberal won't simplify the tax rate.

I shoot that down with FACTS

Then you say its his fault it isn't done.

You do know this is a divided government, and congress also has to pass changes like that first, right?
LOL..what "facts". The fact that Obama said that in a state of the union means just that..he SAID it. And where was Harry Reid who could have taken him up on the offer in the Senate ? Wouldn't be the first time that happened.

Like I said..talk is cheap and it gets followers.
And I won't even get into Obama's campaign promises..talk was cheap then too.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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LOL..what "facts". The fact that Obama said that in a state of the union means just that..he SAID it. And where was Harry Reid who could have taken him up on the offer in the Senate ? Wouldn't be the first time that happened.

Like I said..talk is cheap and it gets followers.
And I won't even get into Obama's campaign promises..talk was cheap then too.
Then beg your Republican representation to take him up on the offer
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:42 PM
 
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Hardly felt at all.

The Hill Poll: No benefit from tax holiday, say a majority of voters - TheHill.com

54% not helped financially.



Didn't the dems LEARN from the stimulus? $13 dollars twice a month is hardly noticed. Same with this avg of $40 per paycheck.



You bet they do. Stopping the obamanomic train wreck of overspending.
So now tax cuts are bad, huh?
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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So now tax cuts for the poor are bad, huh?
Edited your comment for accuracy to the Republican thinking.

Real conservatives support ALL tax cuts.
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:47 PM
 
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Edited your comment for accuracy to the Republican thinking.

Real conservatives support ALL tax cuts.
LOL...yea, i actually thought about adding that part.

All i've been hearing for the last thirty years is that EVERY tax cut no matter how ludicrous is good and doesn't need to be paid for.

But since 2008, things have somehow changed. Wonder what happened?
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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LOL...yea, i actually thought about adding that part.

All i've been hearing for the last thirty years is that EVERY tax cut no matter how ludicrous is good and doesn't need to be paid for.

But since 2008, things have somehow changed. Wonder what happened?
Thats because the Republican party just plays conservative, but they aren't really conservative. Conservatives really need their own party, separate from the Republican caucus.
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