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Oh, not another, "i did everything all on my own without any help from da gobernment" Susie....
Funny how that myth of never taking anything from the big bad gobernment is so easy to bust, yet you wingnuts keep using it.
Tax credits for building a building, tax credits for hiring someone, the public subsidized use of roads, bridges, water mains, sewers and infrastructure to generate your wealth. The benefits of a military, police force, fire dept. and rescue to protect you and your money production schemes.
But, NO, you didn't take ANYTHING so you should have to pay anything.
Yep, dead serious. When a business owner says I will build a plant to make parts in your town but you have to give me a fifteen year tax break that business owner has shifted his tax obligations onto others. Everyone else in town pays more so he can pay less.
Someone taking tax breaks while claiming the did it ON THEIR OWN is a liar. The benefited from local services they didnt pay for, them burdened others.
Oh, not another, "i did everything all on my own without any help from da gobernment" Susie....
Funny how that myth of never taking anything from the big bad gobernment is so easy to bust, yet you wingnuts keep using it.
Tax credits for building a building, tax credits for hiring someone, the public subsidized use of roads, bridges, water mains, sewers and infrastructure to generate your wealth. The benefits of a military, police force, fire dept. and rescue to protect you and your money production schemes.
But, NO, you didn't take ANYTHING so you should have to pay anything.
If this is referring to me, I suggest re-reading some of my posts. I gladly pay taxes for roads, bridges, water mains, sewers and infrastructure, military, police force, fire dept. and rescue etc. So those taxes I fully support, in every way.
But:
--See Sue run to public school: Never used one
--See Sue's daddy take a child-care tax credit: Never had it
--See Sue using Federal student loans to attend college: Never had them
--See Sue lower her taxes with lifetime learning credit: Never even heard of it
--See the employer tax exclusion make Sue's health insurance cheaper: I pay for my own
-- Mortgage deduction: Ok, you've got me on one there (sort of)
--Child-care tax credit: have no kids
--Tax-free education savings account: Never used one
--Social Security: Never used it, but if you are going to hand me money for no good reason, I'll take the handout someday.
--Medicare: self-insured here
--Join the tea party: not a bad idea.
Ok, so you got me on the home-mortgage deduction. (Actually not, since I don't technically own the houses, the trusts do).
So, can you explain why I pay literally 50% of my income in taxes?
If this is referring to me, I suggest re-reading some of my posts. I gladly pay taxes for roads, bridges, water mains, sewers and infrastructure, military, police force, fire dept. and rescue etc. So those taxes I fully support, in every way.
But:
--See Sue run to public school: Never used one
--See Sue's daddy take a child-care tax credit: Never had it
--See Sue using Federal student loans to attend college: Never had them
--See Sue lower her taxes with lifetime learning credit: Never even heard of it
--See the employer tax exclusion make Sue's health insurance cheaper: I pay for my own
-- Mortgage deduction: Ok, you've got me on one there (sort of)
--Child-care tax credit: have no kids
--Tax-free education savings account: Never used one
--Social Security: Never used it, but if you are going to hand me money for no good reason, I'll take the handout someday.
--Medicare: self-insured here
--Join the tea party: not a bad idea.
Ok, so you got me on the home-mortgage deduction. (Actually not, since I don't technically own the houses, the trusts do)
So, can you explain why I pay literally 50% of my income in taxes?
Because most of us do. Well, everyone but people like Mitt. You wanting some special exemption? Even the working poor, minimum wage grunts, pay a healthy share of their income toward taxes. 25% to 30% or more. Part of living in America, I hear the tax rates are better in Somalia if you after a better return....
Yep, dead serious. When a business owner says I will build a plant to make parts in your town but you have to give me a fifteen year tax break that business owner has shifted his tax obligations onto others. Everyone else in town pays more so he can pay less.
Someone taking tax breaks while claiming the did it ON THEIR OWN is a liar. The benefited from local services they didnt pay for, them burdened others.
Actually, if the residents and town counsel think it is a net positive for the community to give a tax break to a company to come to town, (and vote to do so) bringing in people to frequent the town and spend their money, this is no different than any other business deal. For example, if I tell a vendor 'I will buy X thousand of your widgets if you give them to me for Y dollars', that is the same sort of business deal. Instead of shifting tax obligations, it is requiring the vendor to cut his profit margin, but with the potential for long-term business and growth.
It the residents vote to bring in the business, with a tax break, then they believe that the overall benefit exceeds the reduction in tax base, made up for by increased consumer spending in the town. If they didn't believe that, they wouldn't do it. Also, it provides the potential to set up the town as a company magnet.
This is simple business 101.
Government aid benefit the employers of the working poor. If an employer can fill their labor needs with employees that qualify for aid, aren't those employers benefiting from that government aid, in the form of lower wages? When many of Walmart's employees qualify for food stamps and aid isn't Walmart exploiting and profiting from that government aid?
You might factor that as well as how your employee benefit from the government infrastructure. If they had to invest more into getting to you plant or their costs were greater living where they live, they will look to you to fund those costs. When someone offers me a job, the first step in evaluating that offer is determining my costs to show up. I'd expect a better offer if I had to drive twice as far.
Because most of us do. Well, everyone but people like Mitt. You wanting some special exemption? Even the working poor, minimum wage grunts, pay a healthy share of their income toward taxes. 25% to 30% or more. Part of living in America, I hear the tax rates are better in Somalia if you after a better return....
If that's the case, then why did we create the safety net in the first place? Do you think it was just crafted in a vacuum?
FDR's so-called "safety net" in his landmark Socialist agenda of The Great Society was created in order to justify the creation of the federal income tax. The federal income tax was created to feed the wealth of the nation into that private bank called The Federal Reserve. Thus our economy changed from one based on creation to one run on the demand for debt (creation of credit).
Yep, dead serious. When a business owner says I will build a plant to make parts in your town but you have to give me a fifteen year tax break that business owner has shifted his tax obligations onto others. Everyone else in town pays more so he can pay less.
Someone taking tax breaks while claiming the did it ON THEIR OWN is a liar. The benefited from local services they didnt pay for, them burdened others.
Couldn't one say the same about someone with 5-6 kids. Someone who will obviously never even pay in prop taxes what their kids education costs, nevermind actualu contributing a penny towards town operating costs.
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