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As for the pap test, I don't enjoy it. It actually is uncomfortable (not painful but odd feeling) when the swab hits the cervix but I endure it because it is the only way for now to screen for cervical cancer. It is a test that has a purpose.
A pre-abortive ultrasound is only medically necessary in certain circumstances and that would be up to the discretion of the doctor and what HE feels he needs in order to safely do a procedure.
A state government-ordered ultrasound is not my idea of medically necessary.
Now, for argument's sake, lets say women started dying after abortions because the doctor was botching them up due to not being able to see what he needed to see. I could then see the government stepping in and saying "Hey, in order to make this procedure SAFE for the patient, it's a good idea to do this procedure beforehand because it will save X amount of lives."
This procedure is much more accurate than an abdminal sonogram and that is why it is used pre-abortion. No, it isn't more expensive either. It is relatively unexpensive. It isn't much different than getting your annual pap test. Humiliating? It would be pretty humiliating to undergo an abortion IMO. Just because a middle aged Republican man presented this bill doesn't mean squat. Stop turning this into a "hate white conservative men thing" just because you obviously have no use for the Republican party. An agenda is pretty clear here.
My agenda is keeping men, who will never require an abortion, from making women undergo useless procedures to placate prolifers. Yes, my agenda is pretty clear. I am for women being the stewards of their own healthcare and having a say against useless procedures. Your agenda is clearly that of a prolifer who is trying to make others feel badly for making a choice that you deem unseemly. If an abortion is humiliating why pile on more humiliation for no useful reason?
No different than the instrument they insert for a pap test. Why would it be against their will when there is a medical reason for this procedure? It is much more accurate than an abdominal sonogram during pregnancy.
Because for the last time, IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO DETERMINE THE AGE OF THE FETUS NOR MEDICALLY NEEDED. You have a hard time with this basic concept don't you?
I doubt that it would be as painful as an actual abortion.
And abortion is less painful than childbirth, so let's be sure to mandate that THAT is pointed out to women who ask for an abortion, is that your point? Let's force women to watch an actual abortion procedure and an actual birth, vaginal and ceserean.....so they REALLY have all of the facts before they make a decision, shall we? LOL
The point is.... a transvaginal sonogram is an UNNECESSARY procedure.
How about instead of a digital prostate exam, we mandate a rectal sonogram.....not because it is needed.....but just because some politican thinks it would be a good idea. Oh....and while we're at it.....you pay for that mandated, unnecessary, sonogram probe out of your own pocket too.
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In Virginia Planned parenthood requires a trans-vaginal ultrasound before they'll perform an abortion anyway (for medical reasons.)
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Exactly!
If it's a medical necessity, why is there need for a law requiring it?
Just another case of the right's hypocrisy, "We need less government except when it suits our agenda"?
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