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Old 03-16-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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Your comparing apples to oranges here. Even a doctor will tell you that an annual pap test is a preventive measure to more serious health problems in the future. Your grasping at straws now.
However it is not required to do them now is it?
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Old 03-16-2012, 05:53 PM
 
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That would be logical. But I've noticed that chicagonut avoids questions she'd rather not answer...
Of course not because her arguments are based off her religious bias and not any real fact.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:00 PM
 
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Your comparing apples to oranges here. Even a doctor will tell you that an annual pap test is a preventive measure to more serious health problems in the future. Your grasping at straws now.
You are avoiding the question.

Would you agree that mandatory pap tests should be legislated by non-medical qualified politicians? Ie, that women should be forced by law to have a pap smear without their consent?

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Old 03-16-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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A fetus has no rights under the law.
Once upon a time slaves weren't considered people but rather property, what's your point?
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:04 PM
 
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Once upon a time slaves weren't considered people but rather property, what's your point?
Sorry but you can't compare people kept as chattel with a blob.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:07 PM
 
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Sorry but you can't compare people kept as chattel with a blob.
You're right, at least slaves were given a chance at life. Between 1973 and 2008, more than 50 million innocent babies were legally slaughtered before they could ever see the light of day. They were never even given a chance at life.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:08 PM
 
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Please provide proof of that. Provide proof that it is never necessary to have at least an abdominal sonogram before an abortion and that a transvaginal sonogram isn't more accurate and used for that purpose.
It's not medically necessary unless there are complications. But that's not the point.

If it IS medically necessary, then that is a decision by a qualified medical doctor who will advise the woman then ask for her consent.

It should never be a decision by non-medically qualified politicians legislating that a woman be forced to undergo a medical procedure WITHOUT her consent.


"First trimester ultrasounds are not part of routine prenatal care. Many insurance companies will not cover first trimester ultrasound without a medical indication, such as vaginal bleeding or severe pelvic pain. So why are politicians now requiring this expensive procedure for a woman who plans to terminate her pregnancy?"

Ultrasound before abortion not medically necessary - The Clinical Advisor
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:10 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You're right, at least slaves were given a chance at life. Between 1973 and 2008, more than 50 million innocent babies were legally slaughtered before they could ever see the light of day. They were never even given a chance at life.
Babies?

Please document your seemingly baseless, hyperbolic allegation with something factual.

You do realize the TOS prohibit being deliberately misleading, right?
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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You're right, at least slaves were given a chance at life. Between 1973 and 2008, more than 50 million innocent babies were legally slaughtered before they could ever see the light of day. They were never even given a chance at life.
Yes I'm sure that they really enjoyed that life as well :roll eyes:.
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Old 03-16-2012, 06:12 PM
 
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It is.
Prove it.
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