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Old 04-01-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I guess we need to give up, Katiana. I was talking to a neighbor doing yard work this morning. He's very easy to get along with, but just don't bring up a national health care plan, taxing the 1% or Obama. When we began talking about the shooting, I had to change the subject. There will always be people who won't accept any of the facts and believe that Zimmerman was only shooting a Black kid who was up to no good. Seriously, how many people keep asking why he was outside so late, when it was only 7:00? How many people ask, "What was a teenager from Miami doing in Sanford in the first place?" when he was visiting people who lived in the community. He's Black and he's from Miami Gardens - so that's every reason to assume he was up to no good, high on drugs, and probably attacked Zimmerman. The evidence doesn't matter.
He was not merely visiting he was serving a 10 day suspension and to his father's credit sought to intervene before he continued his downward spiral.

 
Old 04-01-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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What!?!?!

So zimmerman shot martin in the chest while he was on top of him and there is NO BLOOD on zimmerman's shirt?!?!?!?

A bloody nose due to being broken may be able to be debated, but shooting someone in the chest while they are on top of you, and no blood on you???

That is incredible.
We've been through this if shot at close range the blood spatter can be minimal to nonexistent.
 
Old 04-01-2012, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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He was not merely visiting he was serving a 10 day suspension and to his father's credit sought to intervene before he continued his downward spiral.
You make it sound like a police sentence, which the suspension wasn't.

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We've been through this if shot at close range the blood spatter can be minimal to nonexistent.
Provide a link, ASAP.
 
Old 04-01-2012, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I just love how people cry for justice yet will not wait for all the facts to be in concerning this case.

Perhaps Zimmerman did it, perhaps not. Convicting him prior to all the facts and a trial is certainly supporting the stance of justice for all.

Hypocrisy.
Then lets have a trial and see. We will never find out if he is not charged
 
Old 04-01-2012, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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We've been through this if shot at close range the blood spatter can be minimal to nonexistent.
What about the blood coming from the chest wound of the body of the recently deceased person who just fell on you?
 
Old 04-01-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Tyrone
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Originally Posted by Fox Terrier View Post
What!?!?!

So zimmerman shot martin in the chest while he was on top of him and there is NO BLOOD on zimmerman's shirt?!?!?!?

A bloody nose due to being broken may be able to be debated, but shooting someone in the chest while they are on top of you, and no blood on you???

That is incredible.

yes, it is indeed incredible that you cannot see blood on a red jacket. especially from a low res video recording off a security system monitor.

cannot deny the fact it was cold and had some rain during the event.
cannot deny that it would make sense for zimmerman to utter 'it's f*cken cold" when exiting his vehicle to question martin.
cannot deny that without reasonable doubt that most people will zipper up their jacket after they utter "it's f*cken cold".
cannot deny the possibility that the paramedics (SFD) asked zimmerman to unzipper his jacket so they can treat him (on police report).

use your logic instead of emotionally assuming zimmerman shot and killed martin for no reason. if you believe zimmerman's black friend, then zimmerman had no racial hatred to shot martin. there is always a reason.

no evidence exits to warrant his arrest. but there is evidence that supports zimmerman's story. FBI, justice department and FL special prosecutor are doing their best to find evidence to charge zimmerman with. if none exists, then could there be a slight possibility that what zimmerman said is the truth?

since you know more than the experts and believe that funereal directors have more CSI skills than coroners, you should volunteer your expertise to martin's family attorney.

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Old 04-01-2012, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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What about the blood coming from the chest wound of the body of the recently deceased person who just fell on you?
How do you know he fell on Zimmerman?

He was likely thrown off Zimmerman from the impact.

The funeral director says there were no bruises, signs of a scuffle on Martin.....that fits in perfectly with Zimmerman's side of the story...that Martin attacked him, punched him once, knocking him to the ground, then proceeded to climb on top, punching away.
 
Old 04-01-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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What about the blood coming from the chest wound of the body of the recently deceased person who just fell on you?
Martin was found face down on the grass with his arms beneath him. So that's puzzling, unless he was on his knees begging for his life and fell face forward or the body was moved. All speculation. I would imagine someone would be on his back after being shot in the chest, especially if he on top of another person. Zimmerman keeps saying Martin was banging his head on the sidewalk. Maybe after Martin was dead, he got up and his spirit walked over to the grassy area and laid his body down on its stomach.
 
Old 04-01-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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How do you know he fell on Zimmerman?

He was likely thrown off Zimmerman from the impact.

.
What did Zimmerman shoot him with? A Bazooka?
 
Old 04-01-2012, 02:19 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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We've been through this if shot at close range the blood spatter can be minimal to nonexistent.
When people are shot dead they drop dead. If Martin was on top of zimmerman he would have dropped right onto his chest.

It's not like the movies, you know.
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