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Old 04-11-2012, 03:49 AM
 
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This is pure ignorance. Natural born citizen is born on US soil, of two citizen parents. I've posted documentation dozens of times on this forum, I don't understand why you people can't do a little of the research yourself, so you know what you are talking about, instead of making complete fools of yourselves over & over again. This is truly getting tiresome!
As you have the problem with the validity of President Obamas birth certificate you can do all the research, why do we who accept the Presidents birth certificate as legitimate need to waste our time doing any research on the matter?
Hypothetically supposing you are right and The Presidents birth certificate is a fake..so what?
To me its just a head scratcher as to why so many are obsessed with this ridiculous issue i'm sure the President has had a legal team go over the allegations thoroughly,Give it up theres nothing in it and it just makes people appear nutty when they proclaim they are afflicted with birtherism..

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Old 04-11-2012, 05:06 AM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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As you have the problem with the validity of President Obamas birth certificate you can do all the research, why do we who accept the Presidents birth certificate as legitimate need to waste our time doing any research on the matter?
Hypothetically supposing you are right and The Presidents birth certificate is a fake..so what?
To me its just a head scratcher as to why so many are obsessed with this ridiculous issue i'm sure the President has had a legal team go over the allegations thoroughly,Give it up theres nothing in it and it just makes people appear nutty when they proclaim they are afflicted with birtherism..
You say "So What?"

Do you believe that Article 2 Section 1 should always be upheld?
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:03 AM
 
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what judge, a dissenting judge? so what?
there was only one judge in the AZ ballot challenge.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:09 AM
 
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....all about Obama being black baseless as your continued predillection for irrelevancy demonstrates.
steve, do you believe non-anglo saxons can be considered "natural born citizens"?
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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The Birthers, led by their beloved Mario Apuzzo, lost the ballot challenge in New Jersey yesterday.

State Ballot Challenge Score Card.

Obama - 10, Birthers - 0

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Old 04-11-2012, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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If his skin color was a problem then why didn't this issue get brought against Jesse Jackson, Alan Keyes and Herman Cain ( all who are black) when they ran for president? That proves this isn't about race.
None were serious candidates.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:22 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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You keep saying that...
The truth bears repeating.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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This has already been covered. The anti-birthers readily acknowledge that not all birthers are motivated by race - there are some crazy ones out there who are driven by their hatred. But many truly are concerned about the constitutional issue.
Close, but no cigar,

The anti-Birthers acknowledge that there are some crazy ones out there who are driven by their hatred. But we do not acknowledge that any are truly concerned about the constitution.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:26 AM
 
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sheesh This is why Historian Dude and wrecking ball get away with their distortions of the truth.
please point out my specific posts that are "distortions of the truth".
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Yes he is a citizen but not a natural born citizen for Article 2 Section 1 purposes.
Just yesterday, Mario Apuzzo made exactly that assertion in court.

At 7:30 PM, the judge gave him a call and told him he was wrong.
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