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Old 06-01-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Can that stuff be mentioned during his trial? If yes, he is toast. His entire defense is based on how truthful the jury thinks he is being with his side of the story. If the prosecution can prove that he has already lied under oath to a judge, I imagine that most reasonable people would not trust a single word that comes out of his mouth.
Yes, it can. You have no expectation of privacy when in jail, they tape record, read your mail, etc.

They apparently sort of spoke cryptically, but not cryptically enough.

 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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How did you get this information? Through the media?
Certainly not the lying MSM.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:41 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Its such a simple equation....

Zimmerman LIED to the court about his financial situation + judge has PROOF of the LIE = Zimmerman bond revoked
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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I believe the original investigation which showed no crime. I believe the original stories of the witnesses who saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman, I believe the medical reports which showed Zimmerman was beaten. The media has been deliberately deceptive and dishonest in their reporting.
And the tape recordings between him and his wife in jail where he discusses the money and extra passports?

You don't believe those then?
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Yep - the prosecutor can and will bring this up during the trial and will use it to impeach his credibility.

~ButterBrownBiscuit~


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Originally Posted by Sco View Post
Can that stuff be mentioned during his trial? If yes, he is toast. His entire defense is based on how truthful the jury thinks he is being with his side of the story. If the prosecution can prove that he has already lied under oath to a judge, I imagine that most reasonable people would not trust a single word that comes out of his mouth.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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Originally Posted by EdwardA View Post
Did your opinion change when he was given bail?

The prosecution still has to prove its case. Nothing released this far shows they are able to do that. Zimmerman in my mind he is not a flight risk. He could have fled anytime before he was arrested. He did not. Not sure why he decided to not be forthcoming with the judge. Well he will be spending the next few months in jail. I guess one silver lining for him is now the state bears the risk of keeping him safe.

That's basically exactly where I am. I think the charges were poltically motivated. I think Trayvon's family/PR guy they hired/attorneys presented a false narrative that the media bought hook, line and sinker. And I think the physical evidence backs up self defense.
But Zimmerman has no one to blame for his bail beking revoked except himself (assuming all the things alledged are true.)
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:43 PM
 
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Why isn't this in "True Crime"??
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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And the tape recordings between him and his wife in jail where he discusses the money and extra passports?

You don't believe those then?
I haven't heard them. I'd want a voice expert to listen to them to determine authenticity. the passport? People forget about that sort of thing, it's not necessarily dishonesty if he forgot about it.
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Certainly not the lying MSM.
Do you have to use a decoder ring when reading these super special, non-MSM sources?
 
Old 06-01-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Originally Posted by arctichomesteader View Post
I believe the original investigation which showed no crime. I believe the original stories of the witnesses who saw Trayvon beating Zimmerman, I believe the medical reports which showed Zimmerman was beaten. The media has been deliberately deceptive and dishonest in their reporting.
Um, there WAS NO 'original' investigation!
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