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When the best you can do is reference a slip of the tongue from 4 years ago, that's a pretty good sign that you have nothing substantive to complain about.
Governor Lingle had no authority to access Hawaii's Dept of Health records on anybody and she had no authority to speak publicly about any citizens vital birth records due to Hawaii privacy laws. Do you concur?
If it's a problem for you, take it up with her and whatever appropriate law enforcement agency and/or the President. It was his birth certificate.
The abstract of Obama's vital records has been found to be a forgery under the authority of a law enforcement department. That conflicts with the Hawaii Dept of Healths statements attesting to the authenticity of Barack Obamas vital records. Until then, Hawaii's Dept of Health statements can't be relied on until they come up with the microfilms of Obama's original vital records, if any.
I know full well what "under the authority of law" means, and the investigation you refer to was no authoritative investigation by law enforcement. I will rely upon the legality of the State of Hawaii having verified the birth certificate.
Btw, how do you know that Obama didn't give the Governor permission to access his birth certificate? Therefore her actions would not have violated any law. You know that people can authorize other people to look at their private records. Usually they sign a records release form which designates the specific individual who is allowed to review the records.
I know because the Hawaii privacy statutes prevent any release of any information pertaining to vital records. Allegedly Director Fuddy had to waive Obama special permission to access his own records. Former Director Fukino would have never been unable to do that with Lingle. Democrat Governor Albercrombie couldn't get access when he wanted to resolve the issue. Now, getting on the subject of the investigation. Those investigators had full backing of the Maricopa County Sheriffs Department just like other investigations have been conducted in other cases.
I know a little about the justice system and how it works.
No, the so-called investigation you're referring to did not have official backing by the Sheriff's Department; the Sheriff just used his name. It was basically a private investigation which someone who is Sheriff of Maricopa County lent his name to, and the finding were worthless, therefore, no legal action has been taken based on those findings.
At any rate, I wouldn't be using that Sheriff's Department's name as any indication of good investigative work, considering how many cases they completely failed to investigate and have gotten into trouble over for being so "inefficient."
How about a cite for the specific Hawaii law you're relying upon?
Gotta ask after reading miles and miles of these threads: What the h*** difference does it make now?
What would be an acceptable resolution given proof positive he's NOT a citizen?
Do you now sit and go through a year or two of your upper and lower houses debating a lengthy process of defining the constitutional statement of what constitutes a "citizen"?
Do you put an election on hold till the outcome is clear?
Do you take every piece of legislation, all bills, that he signed and render them null and void to be argued all over again?
Do you sue his azz to reclaim the salary and expense's of his tenure?
Do you seriously want to hash this on and on for another 4 years to then discover long after he's left office that he was ineligible to have occupied the big chair? So what?
To what end would anyone carry this on after the man as been in the Whitehouse for nearly a full term?
If he's been doing the job at the behest of the majority of your population this long; how would the integrity of your nation be upheld if it's discovered after all this time that, your congressional leaders lied, various officials have lied, your supreme court lied?
Bejeesus folks; given the width and breadth of the conspiracy to place him in the position to have run for office; if indeed he isn't eligible you'd better have another revolution as virtually everyone holding higher office must have been complicit to some degree. What you gonna do; throw them all in jail and start over?
Your countries foreign policy, war in Afghanistan, N.Korea, Iran, China, yes even that stupid Chavez gonna all sit patiently at the breakfast table until you get this chit all sorted out?
Cripes think of the way you'd look to the rest of the world while your nation flounders around slinging every senior beuraucrat out of his office.
Who the hell would you trust to mind the store til you hear from another phony Warren commission?
Governor Lingle had no authority to access Hawaii's Dept of Health records on anybody and she had no authority to speak publicly about any citizens vital birth records due to Hawaii privacy laws. Do you concur?
Of course not.
She was the Governor of the State and formally tasked her Director of Health (a person with both authority to access and speak on the vital records) to check and report back to her. In announcing the results of that investigation she was in fact explicitly meeting the repeated demands of Birthers.
Of course, once the Birthers got an answer they didn't like, they did a completely hypocritical about face and began to whining that the privacy laws that they had been attacking as objectionable for months were suddenly now sacrosanct and had been violated.
As you are doing here.
Whether you agree she had the authority or not, she has spoken on the issue. And of course, Chiyome Fukino spoke too... something you pathetically and transparently ignore.
No. Barack Obama is a Citizen of the United States. It is settled law.
I have provided you with citations to a dozen cases that explicitly agree with me.
You have none that agree with you.
I win.
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