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Old 05-13-2012, 07:04 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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In the 1960 they didn't have the clean coal technology that they do today. Don't blame the coal, blame your parents for choosing to live near a coal fired plant.

And that "BS" that you talk about in your first paragraph, I guess we should just pretend that the war doesn't exist right? We all deal with it; it is effecting our country. We are a country, and what threatens some of us should threaten all of us. We shouldn't live in fear, we should live ready to fight for our safety and our freedom. We should live ready to kick the ass of anyone who threatens this country, foreign or domestic. And it wouldn't kill some of us to be just a little more patriotic.
There is no such thing as clean coal, that is a big lie. Just like that Avon Lake plant "fixing" their soot problems by building a taller smoke stack. Just spread the problem out over a wider area further east.

That was a rather elitist comment. Most working class people don't have unlimited options. Because a plant is spewing garbage into the air, we're all supposed to pick up, leave our homes behind and move off to a cleaner environment? Sure

FYI, terror is another name for fear. If you're going to base everything you do in life on what some Saudi's did 11 years ago... That is why we pay our taxes, so the government and our military can handle the threats.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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You think anyone stands a chance going against big Ag? Follow the money.

You aren't going to fix anything as long as $$$$ = speech. Who ever has all the money controls speech.

(Money=speech) is not the equation that matters. The equation that matters is (elected office=power). As long as those in elected office wield so much power and hence ability to enrich their supporters, those with money will find a way to use their money to gain access to that power.

If you pass a law restricting the speech of those with money, they will just go under the table to influence office holders, and then we'll be in an even worse situation, with 3rd world-style corruption. The only solution is to limit the power of office holders, i.e. a limited form of gov't as envisioned by our founders.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Look at how long the powers that be worked to keep Stevia from being sold/grown in the USA. They were aftraid it would negatively impact the manufacturers of the artifical sweetener poisons.

The Obama administration has made it more difficult for small farmers/organic farmers/backyard farmers to sell their goods at farmer's markets or just to neighbors using co-ops.


How so?
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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So says our vice president..........

“Air that has too much coal in it, corn syrup next, then a terrorist attack. But that is not in any way to diminish the fact that a terrorist attack is real. It is not an existential threat to bringing down the country, but it does have the capacity, still, to kill thousands of people. But hundreds of thousands of people die and their lives are shortened because of coal plants, coal-fired plants and because of corn syrup.”

I think the greatest threat this country is facing is bumbling idiot communists sitting in DC.
Might be true, considering how much Obama has marginalized the terror network that Bush thought resided in Iraq.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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Yeah now the terror network supported by Obama runs with the OWS crowd who just tried to blow up a bridge in Cleveland. Thanks Orator.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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Yeah now the terror network supported by Obama runs with the OWS crowd who just tried to blow up a bridge in Cleveland. Thanks Orator.
Really comical how you connected them dots. Obama is conspiring to blow up bridges now, LOL. You credibility just took another hit, how lame...
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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He said he supports OWS, some OWS folks just tried to blow up a bridge in Cleveland, he said nothing about it so he must still support it. If my credibility is taking hits in your opinion then I must be spot on in my assessment.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Hinckley Ohio
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He said he supports OWS, some OWS folks just tried to blow up a bridge in Cleveland, he said nothing about it so he must still support it. If my credibility is taking hits in your opinion then I must be spot on in my assessment.
Thanks for pointing the missing link.

Since when has a president spoken about defendants before their conviction? You feel it is appropriate for Obama to say what???? "Fry the bad guys with no trial"? Would that male you happy? I think the defendants' attorneys would luv it.
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Old 05-13-2012, 09:54 PM
 
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So says our vice president..........

“Air that has too much coal in it, corn syrup next, then a terrorist attack. But that is not in any way to diminish the fact that a terrorist attack is real. It is not an existential threat to bringing down the country, but it does have the capacity, still, to kill thousands of people. But hundreds of thousands of people die and their lives are shortened because of coal plants, coal-fired plants and because of corn syrup.”

I think the greatest threat this country is facing is bumbling idiot communists sitting in DC.
So the number of Americans who die from terrorist attacks is higher than the number that dies from lung cancer, diabetes, respiratory illness, etc...? I'd love to see the documentation that proves what Biden said is incorrect. Say what you wil about Joe Biden's tact, but the man is probably one of the least prone to BS speaking people to be hold the office of Senator in the modern era.

Also, I don't think you know what a communist actually is.
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Old 05-13-2012, 10:03 PM
 
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Thanks for pointing the missing link.

Since when has a president spoken about defendants before their conviction? You feel it is appropriate for Obama to say what???? "Fry the bad guys with no trial"? Would that male you happy? I think the defendants' attorneys would luv it.
Well I guess you forgot about the whole traaaaaayvon thing. So has everybody else. Hmmmm
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