Food-Stamp Use Climbed To Record 46.7 Million In June, U.S. Says (NAFTA, Pelosi)

[hamellr]

Originally Posted by stick2dascript

Americans don't want to work low paying jobs, this has been proven. In America we laugh at the burger flipper, the janitor and everyone else working low wages. Not only that but those people working low wage jobs are usually not seen as wanted by the opposite race. Your issue comes with the media not Obama. Obama didn't cause a entitled mentality, that's true tv and pop culture.

No.. Americans can't afford to LIVE on low wage jobs. Even discounting all the "luxuries," that people begrudge the poor having in this day and age. Rent prices have gone up drastically all over the country, food prices have gone up, the cost of gas has gone up. Even the rhetoric has gone up.

[freemkt]

Originally Posted by Roadking2003

Maybe you should check the facts.

"Employers in the U.S. were seeking to fill more jobs in March than at any time in almost four years, showing growing confidence in the U.S. economy.


The number of open positions increased by 172,000 to 3.74 million, the most since July 2008, from a revised 3.57 million the prior month that was larger than previously estimated, the Labor Department said today in Washington. "

Job Openings in U.S. Rise to Highest Level Since 2008 - Bloomberg

And what use is that to unskilled workers when there are so many illegals to work off the books?

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by hamellr

No.. Americans can't afford to LIVE on low wage jobs.

That's amusing, because 6 Billion other people have no problem at all.

Like I was just telling someone else, the 2nd time I lived in Romania 10-12 years ago, the average Romanian made $300/month.

You can't live off of that? Romanians did. What, you thought everyone was homeless or lived in cardboard boxes? Nope. They rented apartments -- $25/month to $50/month for a nice one bedroom.

You can live on low wage jobs.....and you'll learn how to do that, because there is no alternative for you.

Originally Posted by hamellr

Even discounting all the "luxuries," that people begrudge the poor having in this day and age. Rent prices have gone up drastically all over the country, food prices have gone up, the cost of gas has gone up. Even the rhetoric has gone up.

So what?

I never ate meat 3 meals a day seven days a week until I went into the Army. Nobody ate meat 7x a week in 1960s/1970s America except the wealthy. Even when we did eat meat, it was cow tongue, beef/pork liver, pork brains, hog maws, beef tripe and stuff like that.

You need to learn how to eat. And shop. You're all lazy. You don't buy grated cheese, you buy the cheaper block of cheese and grate it yourself. You don't buy orange juice, you buy the cheaper oranges and juice it yourself.

You don't buy chicken breast tenderloins. You buy a whole freaking chicken. It takes me a whole entire whopping minute to take a chicken and cut it up into two legs, two boneless thighs, two boneless breasts, two chicken wings and parts for soup stock.

So I pay $0.88/pound instead of $5.89/pound.

You people are so spoiled you don't even know how to live. You waste $1000s each year on disposable things and then throw a temper tantrum because you don't have any wealth. Well, how stupid is that?

You throw away $5.49 each week on Chlorox disposable orange-scented kitchen wipes, because paying $0.99 for 3 dish-clothes that you can wash and re-use over and over and over is beneath your dignity.

"It costs blah, blah, blah, blah Dollars to raise a child." Well, stop throwing away money on disposable diapers, and use cloth diapers instead. Stop buying Osh-Kosh and Nike and other name-brand expensive clothing for your infant.

You people are the least competent consumers on Earth.

And so what if rents have gone up. Do what everyone on Earth does and has done for centuries....share.

I thought you Liberals were all into sharing and stuff.

If I ran HUD there wouldn't be any HUD. It would be eHousing.com. You fill out a questionnaire, say how much you can afford for housing and how many people you are, and then you get matched up with another person or family and then landlords contact you and make the arrangements.

You can share living space. It's not illegal; it's not a crime.

You have people with college degrees working minimum wage jobs and living with mummy and daddy, while some 18 year old high school drop out with three kids who will never contribute anything to society ever gets her own personal private apartment at tax-payer expense.

Yeah, that makes a helluva lot of sense.

You take all them single unwed mothers 28 and under living in their own personal private housing at tax-payer expense and you stick them in a Quonset huts (they hold 40 people) --- problem solved -- and they even got free day-care.

If they don't like living in a Quonset hut, then here's a novel idea -- get a freaking job or emigrate from the US to somewhere else.

The bottom line is that the poor are going to have to take action so that they are not as much of a leech and a drain on society.

The poor can have food or Dish Network, but not both. That's just the way it is.

Realistically...

Mircea

Originally Posted by Bideshi

If they have no other citizenship, where would you deport them to?

Who cares? As long as they are not taking up space and wasting resources in the US.

Put your welfare offices at airports.

When people come in, you just give them a brown bag lunch, a $10 bill, and a parachute, they go out the back door and board a C-130, and when it fills, it takes off and dumps them over Somalia. Or Afghanistan or Myanmar or some other hell-hole.

Same with your criminals. You can load up a bus, drive them out to an airport, and off they go.

If they don't like it, then my suggestion would be not to commit any crime.

And the welfare pukes, I guess either they'll learn how to save money, live frugally, share living accommodations and make sound financial decisions--- or they won't.

Do you have a few $TRILLION in cash sitting around that no one knows about? Because if you don't, then you're going to have to adjust your attitude toward crime and welfare, and even more so for standard of living.

People who do not have Time-Warner Cable are not "living in poverty."

Sensibly...

Mircea

Originally Posted by bluesjuke

Not to mention the tax subsidized apartments I'm finishing up building in Dallas where there are Club owner's, Mercedes, BMWs, late model Camaros, two big screen TVs in one apartment and on and on.

Makes one sick to see it firsthand.
This is not stuff left over from when things were good or better, it's brand new items.

I was flaming Liberal until I had to install cable TV in the "projects."

I worked for the damn cable company and couldn't even afford cable TV, and here these people are loafing around doing nothing, with free housing, free food, free medical insurance, free everything --- these were typically single unwed mothers -- and living with them was some guy with a decent job and of course since everything is free for him as well so he has a pocket full of money and can afford to buy a BMW or Mercedes or Cadillac and have the big screen TV and the big fancy stereo and nice clothes.

It didn't take me long to see that the Liberal view is Fantasyâ„¢ not Realityâ„¢.

Commiserating...

Mircea

Originally Posted by Gtownoe

That's about one of the dumbest comments I've heard all day. There's a huge correlation between poverty and crime rates in this country.

No, there isn't and you cannot prove it.

The fact that someone who is "impoverished" (snicker) committed a crime is not proof that they committed the crime because they were impoverished. They would have committed the crime no matter what the circumstances.

Obviously you're clueless as to what constitutes a "crime of passion."

Delinquently...

Mircea

[lifelongMOgal]

Originally Posted by hamellr

No.. Americans can't afford to LIVE on low wage jobs. Even discounting all the "luxuries," that people begrudge the poor having in this day and age. Rent prices have gone up drastically all over the country, food prices have gone up, the cost of gas has gone up. Even the rhetoric has gone up.

People do not begrudge poor people having anything as long as it is not the taxpayers being stiffed for the bill on luxuries for other people, be it the poor, the oligarchy, or our elected public servants.

Americans cannot live in the way they've become accustomed on low wage jobs. They can live but they have to recognize that there is a downward class shift occuring in the USA. People will have to adapt or overcome because the new normal is much, much worse than today.

Rent prices are a function of the market. As long as the market can bear higher rent prices because there are fewer eligible homebuyers, then prices will not only remain high but continue to rise. When the rental market can no longer support high rents it will adjust itself.

Considering that EBT cards make the bread lines of the 1930s invisible, I'd say that rhetoric is pretty low. Uncle Ben keeps quietly running the printing presses to keep Americans from rioting in the streets as are the people in Greece. We are in a Depression, it is just that most Americans are still in denial. When Americans stop being in denial it is going to get real bad real quick.

[plates]

Originally Posted by Mircea

No, there isn't and you cannot prove it.

The fact that someone who is "impoverished" (snicker) committed a crime is not proof that they committed the crime because they were impoverished. They would have committed the crime no matter what the circumstances.

Obviously you're clueless as to what constitutes a "crime of passion."

Delinquently...

Mircea

Addressing all of your posts is tiring because it's clear that you're just talking to talk and you're making false correlations. There are studies and your elitism is tiring. Although, you do know clueless.

[&heart]

Welfare should be for three groups of people IMO. The elderly, disabled, and veterans. If you're really determined to put food on your table, you will do it.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by Gtownoe

That's about one of the dumbest comments I've heard all day. There's a huge correlation between poverty and crime rates in this country.

No there isn't. You want to stereotype poorer people as being more criminal but that's actually not the case.

I live in one of the poorest cities in the USA but it's also one of the safest cities in the USA.

The correlation with crime rates has to do with drug use, gang control of neighborhoods, but it's really not about poorer people being more likely to commit crimes.

[FancyFeast5000]

Originally Posted by uggabugga

the official governmentese term is 'electronic benefit transfer.'

In Florida the ONLY thing you can buy with food stamps is FOOD.

[freemkt]

Originally Posted by Mircea

That's amusing, because 6 Billion other people have no problem at all.

Like I was just telling someone else, the 2nd time I lived in Romania 10-12 years ago, the average Romanian made $300/month.

You can't live off of that? Romanians did. What, you thought everyone was homeless or lived in cardboard boxes? Nope. They rented apartments -- $25/month to $50/month for a nice one bedroom.

You can live on low wage jobs.....and you'll learn how to do that, because there is no alternative for you.

Well, duh, if I could rent a nice one bedroom apartment for $25/month to $50/month, I could live on $300/month as well. But it's a lot harder when one bedroom apartments rent for $800/month.

Those 6 Billion people "have no problem at all" because they are not burdened with inflationary building, housing, and zoning codes that inflate costs. It's not unlawful for three of them unrelated to live together in a house as it is in some parts of Lubbock TX, and nobody's going to fine them if they house one more warm body in the basement.

Middle class Americans decided all Americans should be housed to middle class standard, whether they can afford it or not.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by hamellr

No.. Americans can't afford to LIVE on low wage jobs. Even discounting all the "luxuries," that people begrudge the poor having in this day and age. Rent prices have gone up drastically all over the country, food prices have gone up, the cost of gas has gone up. Even the rhetoric has gone up.

But the illegals are doing just fine on those low wage jobs. Remittances to Mexico were way up in 2011, and are even higher yet in 2012.

Illegals can show Americans how it's easy to live on very low wages. 3 or 4 families in a one family residence. Each parent or parents with small children in a bedroom, teenagers and other adults sleep in the living room, everyone shares the kitchen. Or a small one room apartment can easily be shared by 14 or 15 men each chipping in for their portion of the rent.

They're pouring over the border to get in on what Americans view as low wages -- again, remittances to Mexico are way up in 2012. 8% higher than in 2011 and 2011 was way up over 2010. They take the low wage jobs and have plenty money left after living expenses to send home, and of course the welfare handouts that come with having children here help out a lot.