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They can't - because they know full well that no company is forcing anybody to work for them.
I already asked several people at several different retailers (the larger big box ones), I couldn't find a single store scheduling shifts longer than 8 hours. But they do have shifts that go through the night. I'd have to call BS on that one.
What is essential about police, fire and medical personnel? Well,emergencies and crimes don't take a holiday so it is essential for those professions to be on duty 24/7/365.
What about those, as myself, who believes I need those holidays off? Leave it to those who want to be there, not me. I want to celebrate with family not being fake to customers all day (yes about 95% of the time we're being forced to be "fast, fun, and friendly"). Retail is a serious job that some consumers just don't understand. When I worked at the big-box retailer with the motto "fast, fun, and friendly" it was anything but that. We had to bust our ass (especially us males, it's EXTREMELY sexist in the retail industry) asking every guest if they would like to apply for a damn credit card 9/10 they don't want, then it's high-demand, you may have a kid throwin up in the bathroom that you will need to clean quickly as possible, while wearing a radio that your superiors will keep asking "where are you, you need to help someone take something to their car" (luckily I got tips everytime except once when this ******* tried to talk down on my political ventures). You could work from literally 3-11:30 (end up stayin until 12) then have to come in at 8 in the morning. Guess how much the pay is? $8 a hour usually, and that is just too little for all we do. I was a cart-attendant/cashier (worked as cart attendant maybe 10 times total because they said I was excellent with customers, which I am because I care about their experience in the store but that doesn't mean I necessarily am happy) and using the cart machine is no joke, especially with pedestrians pretending not to see you and you have to risk your own body to stop the machine. All this while companies continue preaching to us that unions are bad for business. If they actually cared for us, and didn't neglect is maybe they wouldn't be needed but they honestly are needed in most establishments.
So with that rant, I'm saying retail employees (such as myself formerly) deserve a break on holidays!
I've worked in retail...it's not that serious.
When you grow up and get a better job, you can then compare the two and you will find out how very silly you sound right now.
What is essential about police, fire and medical personnel? Emergencies and crimes don't take a holiday so it is essential for those professions to be on duty 24/7/365.
So? Why do persons who hold those specific positions have to be involved with emergencies?
Why does someone have to be on duty in a paid position to deal with crime?
Well its like that in Florida and South Carolina, both of which are Right to work states.
I said you are full of ****, based on my responses. If you had said Bob's motor cycle repair, small restaraunt, or even a Car dealership. I would understand and fully agree with you.
But ANY of the large corporations that were open for black friday, no way...
Live in a Fantasy land? I worked in an at will state for a Major movie theatre company that was open 365 days a year normally, onnly time we ever shut down was Sheriff ordered hurricane evacuation, 9/11/01, open for business, as an example, and on rare occasions we had 24 operations, but was often quite normal to have to leave, and the next shift came at 7am. I was both an employee and even a manager and at later times I was actually a Lead Assistant, and an acting GM.
My theatre employed 120 employees, my department had 45, with 2 assistant managers and 5 shift leads.
I have worked grand openings off several theatres, re-openings, major blockbusters of people camping outside for days, etc...
As with many bull****, seasonal jobs, I have been in part of hiring and firing employees. As well as the initial hiring of locations with nearly 100 employees.
If an employee shows up to work on time, doesn't steal, damage company property, or break any normal company rules, but are still the worst employee in the world. Its near impossible to fire them. It is actually quicker to have them quit, then it is to fire them.
These are large corporations, this kind of thing DOES NOT HAPPEN, unless the reasons I stated before, or there is a lawsuit. (BTW that theatre I worked for averaged about 5 lawsuits a month, usually not from employees, but from customers and it being a public place)
Hell even now in a non-retail enviroment of my current job, there is alot of high pressure deadlines and money on the line. Upper level managers have actually been dumb enough to actually say to a first line manager. "Get it done or start looking for a new job", in which turn said manager went to HR, and now when the upper level manager comes on the floor, he is escorted by an HR rep.
So please enlighten me from your personal experiences in retail, that are different.
Since I have a feeling I'm simply chasing my tail by engaging with you, I'll simply state I've relayed experiences of people I know in retail. I know that I'm not lying and that's good enough for me. If you feel I'm lying, oh well. What can I do? I'm not going to give you all my personal information so you can validate whether what I say is true or not on an internet message board. Please feel free to come back at me with more personal attacks and nastiness. None of that changes the fact that I know these things happen and anyone who has worked in retail knows it happens too.
What is essential about police, fire and medical personnel? Well,emergencies and crimes don't take a holiday so it is essential for those professions to be on duty 24/7/365.
Retail employees are essential to the retail industry on the biggest shopping days of the year. I'm not in the police, fire or medical industry but I still have to work on certain holidays. Why? Because that's how the industry I work in works. Same with retail.
Martha Stewart worked on Thanksgiving. She was all over live TV. I bet she wasn't wining.
They can't - because they know full well that no company is forcing anybody to work for them.
I can, but I won't. I don't give out identifying information on this site. I know full well that I am stating the truth. I have better things to do than lie on an internet message board to "win" a "debate".
So? Why do persons who hold those specific positions have to be involved with emergencies?
Because that is the nature of the position and it is essential to have people trained to perform these services on duty when and if an emergency happens.
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Originally Posted by Harrier
Why does someone have to be on duty in a paid position to deal with crime?
LOL Who is going to deal with it if no one is on duty?
What about those, as myself, who believes I need those holidays off? Leave it to those who want to be there, not me. I want to celebrate with family not being fake to customers all day (yes about 95% of the time we're being forced to be "fast, fun, and friendly"). Retail is a serious job that some consumers just don't understand. When I worked at the big-box retailer with the motto "fast, fun, and friendly" it was anything but that. We had to bust our ass (especially us males, it's EXTREMELY sexist in the retail industry) asking every guest if they would like to apply for a damn credit card 9/10 they don't want, then it's high-demand, you may have a kid throwin up in the bathroom that you will need to clean quickly as possible, while wearing a radio that your superiors will keep asking "where are you, you need to help someone take something to their car" (luckily I got tips everytime except once when this ******* tried to talk down on my political ventures). You could work from literally 3-11:30 (end up stayin until 12) then have to come in at 8 in the morning. Guess how much the pay is? $8 a hour usually, and that is just too little for all we do. I was a cart-attendant/cashier (worked as cart attendant maybe 10 times total because they said I was excellent with customers, which I am because I care about their experience in the store but that doesn't mean I necessarily am happy) and using the cart machine is no joke, especially with pedestrians pretending not to see you and you have to risk your own body to stop the machine. All this while companies continue preaching to us that unions are bad for business. If they actually cared for us, and didn't neglect is maybe they wouldn't be needed but they honestly are needed in most establishments.
So with that rant, I'm saying retail employees (such as myself formerly) deserve a break on holidays!
When I worked in retail I loved my co-workers that were like you.
Complain about work, think they "deserve" extras like time off on the holidays...great, more hours/money for me.
And a customer dared to "talk down on your political ventures" are you serious? What are you doing speaking to any customer about your "political ventures" like that? That is insanely stupid.
Bottom line is that people that thought/acted like you definitely made me look better as an employee and let me pick up all of the extra hours I could while you were waiting for the breaks you so "deserved" while you complain about paychecks not being big enough.
Thankfully I've worked my way out of that environment, but I learned a ton and use some of that knowledge today in how to work with people to do better at my current job.
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