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Old 12-17-2012, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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How many times has the 2nd ammendment been before the Supreme Court and how many times has the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the 2nd ammendment? How many times have the left won a case in the high court regarding the 2nd ammendment?..
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:31 PM
 
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I think you mean 308 and its the same round as the 7.62x51 NATO also the 8mm goes in no assault weapon I have seen. Its a bolt action round for the most part. Also its not the ctg its the semi large cap mag that creates the problem. If everyone of those were in single shot, it would not be as deadly as in the semi configuration.

The .308 IS the same round as the 7.62X51 NATO round.

Never seen an assault rifle in 8mm mauser? I guess you are not familiar with weapons. Why, I have several. The G43, G41 and the MG 34 (converted to semi-auto).

So....................... it is the "capacity" that creates a problem? You do realize, don't you (I guess not), that one can take many semi-auto rifles and convert them to belt fed, essentially giving them a very large firing capacity? They make these for the AR-15 and AR-10. I have a couple of 1919A4s (semi-auto) which are belt fed. Of course, none of them require "high cap magazines", but the AR-15 conversion has more fire power than the ones I have set up with 120 round snail drums.

Further, in most states, one can legally convert a semi-auto to full auto with -

"bump fire" stocks (ar-15, AK-47)

gatling gun cranks


These are technically not "machine guns" in the eyes of the ATF and have DEVASTATING fire capacity. Further, the Saiga 12 shotgun can come with a 24 round drum and a "bump fire" stock to make it a perfectly legal, fully automatic 12g shotgun.


You see- these things are a little more tricky than most liberal think.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:42 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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All of them.

The time has come for a radical re-thinking of guns in this country. Anything less than a wholesale disintegration of the gun culture and industry will result in the failure to protect innocent people from massacres like Friday's.


OK, skip ahead, skip ahead,...now let's pretend it's the future and you have your wish.

How does fewer legal firearms in the hands of law abiding citizens change anything?
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:44 PM
 
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Ban the ammo. Collect all the guns you want, make ammo for assault rifles and pistols illegal for sale and private ownership under 10 year prison penalty. Put some teeth into the legislation.

You can have a shotgun for home defense (the best weapon for home defense), rifles for hunting, but ban private ownership of pistol and assault weapon ammunition. Licensed, inspected gun ranges can keep your stockpiled ammo and you can store shoot there. All bullets sold in this country should have a serial number to trace it through ownership and sale. Too expensive? Too bad.

Close the absurd loopholes that define an assault weapon, too.

"Well regulated militia"

If we're going to make the leap that the 2nd Amendment does not refer to a standing army and instead private citizens, "well regulated" means this country can decide which weapons are acceptable and which are not for private citizens.
Wouldn't work. I cast my own bullets and reload my own ammo. I can crank out quite a few rounds in a few hours.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Here's the problem: You cannnot play responsibily with your toys. Therefore, some of your toys will be taken away.

The opinions of THE MAJORITY is called DEMOCRACY.

It's amusing how fixated right wingnuts are with having things rammed down their throats.
But the United States is a representative republic. You lose.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:48 PM
 
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Here's the problem: You cannnot play responsibily with your toys. Therefore, some of your toys will be taken away.

The opinions of THE MAJORITY is called DEMOCRACY.

It's amusing how fixated right wingnuts are with having things rammed down their throats.
Think Republic. Then get back to us with more lunacy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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A good point. Perhaps mandatory ten year terms would serve as a deterrent, or get the dealers off the streets for longer stretches.
All those gun laws will be deemed racist in a few years when blacks and Mexicans are locked up at a disproportional rate.

But I'm all for life in prison for gun-related crimes if you leave responsible gun owners out of your witch hunt.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Is anyone thinking about a REAL nut sneaking an explosive device into schools? These places that people must be need some security! Don't forget Tim McVeigh in all the stormy debate.
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Old 12-17-2012, 07:42 PM
 
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Why is it that liberal 'progressives' can't cease fixating on gun-owners' gun power & sizes?

...Let me guess...

When you never grow up & certain folks don't want to play with you, you just have to find a way to punish those uninterested & uninvolved. All the while taking the 'high road' when doing it.
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Old 12-18-2012, 01:32 AM
 
Location: Minnesota
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All those gun laws will be deemed racist in a few years when blacks and Mexicans are locked up at a disproportional rate.

But I'm all for life in prison for gun-related crimes if you leave responsible gun owners out of your witch hunt.
Guess you don't understand. These guys selling to the cartels are UNIFORMLY white! To my knowledge, both the straw buyers and the sellers are white. The end users are foreigners. They wouldn't have a prayer if not enabled by a bunch of greedy white people.
Going undercover at Texas gun show: Scenes from 'Vanguard' // Current TV
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