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Old 12-17-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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And I'll keep posting THIS...banning 30 cartridge magazines WILL LIMIT THE DAMAGE A NUT CAN DO. REPEAT.
So will arming more citizens.
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Most guns I am familiar with, have ammo that is different for a pistol than a rifle. I'm certainly no expert.
Now that we've managed to clear that up..........
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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Just so that you don't get confused again, I also wantyou to see this......

223 caliber is a ammo commonly used in "assault weapons" but here is a traditional rifle, not considered an assault weapon, that uses the same caliber

Google Image Result for http://www.gunblast.com/images/Savage-Model25/DSC03323.jpg
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Old 12-17-2012, 04:22 PM
 
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30 cartridge magazines is the term I have been using. If I mis-posted, apologies.
it happens, no problem. by the way, limiting magazines to 10 rounds means nothing. semi autos can be reloaded in a matter of a couple of seconds, and there is always the option of carrying several guns, all fully loaded and ready to rock. ten guns, six rounds each is sixty rounds to do damage with.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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So will arming more citizens.
Wrong. The answer to too many guns is NOT more guns.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:06 PM
 
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it happens, no problem. by the way, limiting magazines to 10 rounds means nothing. semi autos can be reloaded in a matter of a couple of seconds, and there is always the option of carrying several guns, all fully loaded and ready to rock. ten guns, six rounds each is sixty rounds to do damage with.
True. But I'd rather have someone have to carry three guns and reload twice to do the same damage as one with 30 rounds in the magazine.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:08 PM
 
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Just so that you don't get confused again, I also wantyou to see this......

223 caliber is a ammo commonly used in "assault weapons" but here is a traditional rifle, not considered an assault weapon, that uses the same caliber

Google Image Result for http://www.gunblast.com/images/Savag...5/DSC03323.jpg
I defer to your expertise that some crossover exists. I never claimed expertise but have shot a wide variety of weapons. Issues like bullet crossover can be addressed too. But I think we can take several steps to achieve a whole policy.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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There's a news story about a guy who sold a gun to the drug cartel in Mexico which was found at the scene of a murder of a customs agent. It says he got 57 months. Is there a reason a conviction like this can't be a life sentence? To me, this is like a doctor selling opioids to a street dealer. The penalty should be just as harsh as it can get. I really don't think trade in guns with murderous cartels should be treated so lightly. Would it be that light if he was selling explosives to Muslim terrorist groups? I think it sends a message to the border police "your life isn't really all that important".
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:16 PM
 
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There's a news story about a guy who sold a gun to the drug cartel in Mexico which was found at the scene of a murder of a customs agent. It says he got 57 months. Is there a reason a conviction like this can't be a life sentence? To me, this is like a doctor selling opioids to a street dealer. The penalty should be just as harsh as it can get. I really don't think trade in guns with murderous cartels should be treated so lightly. Would it be that light if he was selling explosives to Muslim terrorist groups? I think it sends a message to the border police "your life isn't really all that important".
A good point. Perhaps mandatory ten year terms would serve as a deterrent, or get the dealers off the streets for longer stretches.
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Old 12-17-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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True. But I'd rather have someone have to carry three guns and reload twice to do the same damage as one with 30 rounds in the magazine.
three guns, ten rounds per gun, i dont have to reload any of the guns to do the same damage, actually more damage, as one gun with thirty rounds. same with five guns, six rounds for each gun. again i dont have to reload.
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