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Old 01-18-2013, 04:02 PM
 
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onaka to AZ SOS ken bennett:

"Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."

Hawaii's Verification Of President Obama's Birth | TPM Document Collection

and onaka to KS SOS kris kobach:

"1. The original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health.

2. The file number for the Certificate of live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II, is 151 61 10641.

3. The information contained in the “Certificate of Live Birth” published at President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate | The White House and reviewed by me on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached with your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health."

2012-09-14 - KS - SoS Kobach Letter to Onaka and Response


so exactly how do you believe that information can "match" without being "identical"?
Wrong. Onaka would not verify the date of birth or city and island of birth, None of that has been legally determined, according to Onaka’s verification to Ken Bennett - and his verifications to both MDEC and Kansas SOS Kris Kobach are consistent with the one to Bennett. The only verification request which asked for actual birth facts to be verified was Bennett’s, and though both Bennett and Kobach tried to get him to verify the accuracy of the White House image, Onaka would not verify to Bennett that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file” and would not verify to Kobach that the INFORMATION contained in the White House image is “identical to” the information contained in the record on file.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:06 PM
 
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Jefferson - Dual citizen----Wrong-U.S. Citizen covered by Article 2 Grandfather Clause
wrong. Became a french citizen after Adoption of the US Constitution. Became Presdient of the US.

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JF Kennedy - Triple Citizen----Wrong-U.S. Natural Born Citizen born to two U.S. Citizen parents (plural).
Yet he was a triple citizen. He had Irish, US, and French citizenship from his parents and grandparents. Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.

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Spiro Agnew - Dual citizen----Wrong-U.S. Natural Born Citizen born to two U.S. Citizen parents.
His father didn't become a citizen till after his birth. And Greek Citizenship is jus sanguinis. Meaning citizenship through blood. Since Spiro's father was a Greek citizen, there is no record of his father renouncing his citizenship; Spiro gained Greek Citizenship at birth.

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Clinton - Dual Citizen----Wrong-U.S. Natural Born Citizen born to two U.S. Citizen parents.
Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.

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Bush - Dual Citizen----Wrong-U.S. Natural Born Citizen born to two U.S. Citizen parents.
Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.

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Bush Sr - Dual citizen----Wrong-U.S. Natural Born Citizen born to two U.S. Citizen parents.
Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:07 PM
 
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Wrong. Onaka would not verify the date of birth or city and island of birth, None of that has been legally determined, according to Onaka’s verification to Ken Bennett - and his verifications to both MDEC and Kansas SOS Kris Kobach are consistent with the one to Bennett. The only verification request which asked for actual birth facts to be verified was Bennett’s, and though both Bennett and Kobach tried to get him to verify the accuracy of the White House image, Onaka would not verify to Bennett that the White House image is a “true and accurate representation of the original record on file†and would not verify to Kobach that the INFORMATION contained in the White House image is “identical to†the information contained in the record on file.
You may be old, but you can't spell to save your life, old guy. That's President Obama to you, old man.

And may I ask (ever so politely), would you happen to be a Teabagger? Reason I ask, is because the same tired, old, ignorant arguments have been made by Teabaggers.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:10 PM
 
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Actually you are wrong. If you research you will find out Obama's literary agent put that out with Obama's approval in order to shop for him a publisher so he could write his first autobiography and get a book advance. He then used it for his second autobiography.
actually you are now lying, as you've been told several times that the copy was written by the agent, who never talked to Obama.

snopes.com: Promotional Booklet

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Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients.


ETA: funny how you focus on a non-published booklet, but a real publication available to public, clearly says he was born in Hawaii (a year before)P:

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/06/us...aw-review.html

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me - an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Stableford, Dylan. "'Obama's Literary Agent Misidentified His Birthplace in 1991."
ABC News. 18 May 2012.
Since you were told that this was a mistake on the literary agent's part, you are now knowingly lying by posting this long debunked claim.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:11 PM
 
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Yo That's President Obama to you, old man.

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No. He's no president. He's a usurper to this Old Army Soldier.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:14 PM
 
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No. He's no president. He's a usurper to this Old Army Soldier.
which shows that every birther is moronic, and demonstrates repeatedly that they don't know what an usurper is (hint: You can't elect an usurper)
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:16 PM
 
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Wrong.
wrong?

i gave you direct quotes from onaka. which quote(s) do you believe isn't onaka's?
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:19 PM
 
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which shows that every birther is moronic, and demonstrates repeatedly that they don't know what an usurper is (hint: You can't elect an usurper)
But this usurper was since he was never Constitutionally eligible and he is subverting the Constitution.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:22 PM
 
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actually you are now lying, as you've been told several times that the copy was written by the agent, who never talked to Obama.

snopes.com: Promotional Booklet

Since you were told that this was a mistake on the literary agent's part, you are now knowingly lying by posting this long debunked claim.
No. I believe Obama told her the information. That information was on that form for 16 years without being corrected. There is no way Obama didn't know that information was there when he was making his book deals. The bottom line is the literary agent fell on the sword for him and took the blame.
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Old 01-18-2013, 04:25 PM
 
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wrong. Became a french citizen after Adoption of the US Constitution. Became Presdient of the US.



Yet he was a triple citizen. He had Irish, US, and French citizenship from his parents and grandparents. Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.


His father didn't become a citizen till after his birth. And Greek Citizenship is jus sanguinis. Meaning citizenship through blood. Since Spiro's father was a Greek citizen, there is no record of his father renouncing his citizenship; Spiro gained Greek Citizenship at birth.


Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.



Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.



Birthers have always claimed that no Natural born citizen can have more than one citizenship.
Your post is always like your others...........wrong. And Spiro Agnews dad was naturalized before he was born, hence Spiro was born to two U.S. Citizen parent's making him a U.S. Constitutional Article 2 Section 1 natural born Citizen.
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