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Wrong. Onaka would not verify the date of birth....
from the kobach letter:
"3. The information contained in the “Certificate of Live Birth” published at President Obama's Long Form Birth Certificate | The White House and reviewed by me on the date of this verification, a copy of which is attached with your request, matches the information contained in the original Certificate of Live Birth for Barack Hussein Obama, II on file with the State of Hawaii Department of Health."
so onaka is confirming all info on the LFBC.
the LFBC states the date:
August 4, 1961
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... or city and island of birth,....
from the bennett letter:
".... Barack Hussein Obama, II born in Honolulu, Hawaii"
Wrong. Onaka would not verify the date of birth or city and island of birth, None of that has been legally determined, according to Onaka’s verification to Ken Bennett - and his verifications to both MDEC and Kansas SOS Kris Kobach are consistent with the one to Bennett.
We've already been over the stupidity contained in your whining here. As prescribed by law, Onaka verified every fact he was specifically asked to verify. And he also verified that the information on the Whitehouse.com image is the same (i.e. it "matched") the information on the original.
Tell us... what in your alternate universe is the difference between information "matching" and information being "identical?"
Yet another example of something you believe that has no evidence in its favor and that is directly contradicted by the only people in a real position to know.
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That information was on that form for 16 years without being corrected.
What form? There was no form.
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There is no way Obama didn't know that information was there when he was making his book deals.
There is no reason whatsoever for Obama to have ever even seen the thing.
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The bottom line is the literary agent fell on the sword for him and took the blame.
Yes. People with ethical integrity take responsibility for their mistakes. But you wouldn't know anything about that.
People with ethical integrity take responsibility for their mistakes. But you wouldn't know anything about that.
Oh yes I do know about integrity. But it is something you clearly lack on a grand scale according to your posts. You have no integrity when it comes to posting accurate facts, especially on the subject of Obama's ineligibility. You lack clarity along with maturity. It is something I hope you will gradually grow into. I wish you well on that endeavor. But from now on. Please quit misleading the people of this forum about Obama's past and his fraudulent documents he has perpetrated on the American people.
We've already been over the stupidity contained in your whining here. As prescribed by law, Onaka verified every fact he was specifically asked to verify. And he also verified that the information on the Whitehouse.com image is the same (i.e. it "matched") the information on the original.
Tell us... what in your alternate universe is the difference between information "matching" and information being "identical?"
What in your universe don't you understand that Bennett submitted for verification the following birth facts: male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama. By law Onaka has to verify every one of those facts if they are claimed on a legally valid record.
The only one he even mentions is Honolulu, and that was only to say that the BC he verifies as existing CLAIMS Honolulu as the place of birth. If he had been verifying that Honolulu really IS the place of birth he would also have to verify that Oahu is the island of birth (and Aug 4, 1961 is the DOB, male is the gender, Stanley Ann Dunham is the mother, and Barack Hussein Obama is the father). He doesn’t, so it is clear that he is NOT verifying Honolulu as the place of birth - only that it is CLAIMED on their record, which is all he verifies about the other stuff on Bennett’s 2nd page of requests. The only lawful reason for Onaka to not verify the facts claimed on Obama’s record is if that record is non-valid (late and/or altered), because late and/or altered records are declared by Hawaii law to be worthless. They have no legal value of their own.
What in your universe don't you understand that Bennett submitted for verification the following birth facts: male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama. By law Onaka has to verify every one of those facts if they are claimed on a legally valid record.
because they are. Unless you have CREDIBLE evidence that the information wasn't, what is presented in the archives in Hawaii is the TRUE information, and that is what he confirmed to Barnett.
do you have direct evidence that the information on the birth record in the archives at HDOH contain false information, Steve?
What in your universe don't you understand that Bennett submitted for verification the following birth facts: male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, and Barack Hussein Obama.
here's exactly what ken bennett submitted for verification:
"Ladies and gentlemen:
Enclosed please find a request for a verification in lieu of a certified copy for the birth record of Barack Hussein Obama II. In addition to the items to be verified in the attached form, please verify the following items from the record of birth:
Department of Health File #151 61 10641
Time of birth: 7:24 p.m.
Name of hospital: Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital
Age of father: 25
Birthplace of Father: Kenya, East Africa
Age of mother: 18
Birthplace of mother: Wichita, Kansas
Date of signature of parent: 8-7-1961
Date of signature of attendant: 8-8-1961
Date accepted by local registrar: August-8 1961
Additionally, please verify that the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama is a true and accurate representation of the original record in your files.
neither male, Aug 4, 1961, Honolulu, Oahu, Stanley Ann Dunham, or Barack Hussein Obama were specifically requested by bennett for verification in this or any other universe ( altho presumably were a part of "the attached copy of the Certificate of Live Birth for Mr. Obama" that onaka additionally verified)
you're assuming that bennett didn't have a 3rd grader who was minimally competent at geography that bennett could ask for help from.
The law requires Onaka to verify ANY information submitted for verification, and Oahu was submitted for verification. Why did Onaka not verify Oahu as Obama’s birth island, when the law specifically requires him to verify ANY fact submitted for verification? Onaka’s failure to verify everything submitted for verification reveals that the record they have is not legally valid.
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