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Bought all of mine at a swap meet in Arizona , Whats a 4473 form ???? just kidding! they will get the serial numbers to mine when they try to take them away from me .
Precisely. One of the major loopholes that need to be closed.
Again, when new laws are passed, there are a lot of people on this board who will become the outlaws they fear so much.
Also - Has it ever occurred to you that by posting here, you have already told the government that you have guns at your home? You'll be targeted to go down in the first press.
Precisely. One of the major loopholes that need to be closed.
Again, when new laws are passed, there are a lot of people on this board who will become the outlaws they fear so much.
Also - Has it ever occurred to you that by posting here, you have already told the government that you have guns at your home? You'll be targeted to go down in the first press.
Hahahaha!
The real loophole is how they infringe on a god and constitutional right, then make laws that allow them to infringe farther. When it clearly states, "shall not be infringed upon"
The real loophole is how they infringe on a god and constitutional right, then make laws that allow them to infringe farther. When it clearly states, "shall not be infringed upon"
I've been a gun owner, and I have no problem with registration. Yet again, I think one of the major problems with guns is the tangled web of obscure federal and state laws. Guns are interstate commerce, and they should be federally regulated. I think it's long overdue. At the same time, I would acknowledge the reality that people are going to have all kinds of reactions to it, and I can't entirely blame them. I think former Australian PM John Howard (an Aussie conservative and one of Bush's ole allies) wrote a good piece in today's NYT about how to approach it. One step could be financial incentives. Maybe rather than threatening brute force, a better approach would be voluntary registration for all arms already produced, sold, and owned, with the offer of a tax incentive to comply. While people who own guns are currently deciding what to do with them, the real force of any registration law could be applied to all new guns sold, and that would especially mean eliminating gun show loopholes.
An "Australian conservative" may as well be John Kerry with a grating British twang.
Speaking of which, it's interesting that you, a former gun owner who implies supposed sympathy for current gun owners, should indicate John Howard as a respectable authority on U.S. gun policy approaches. It's quite repulsive, in my opinion, that the former leader of a foreign country (which culturally despises the United States, by the way) is given a platform to lecture American citizens and legislators, but hey, then again, what else would you expect from the New York Times? A foreign hillbilly like Howard jives quite well with NYT politics, especially when considering Howard's own record on guns.
Also, in case you aren't aware, civilian firearms are indeed federally regualated in numerous ways. A registration database serves no other purpose than to track and record the physical privateproperty of private citizens who are ultimately quite unlikely to use their firearm in a crime and are probably just as unlikely to have it stolen from their possession.
And please, don't tell me that a gun is like a car and should be regulated as such--I genuinely can't take it anymore.
As a gun owner, I would personally never "register" my firearms with the federal government.. I am curious though, if it were law that you had to register your firearms with the government, would you??
nope
the vikings will win the superbowl before I register my firearms.
I will define it as what ever it takes.
A poke in the eye?
A fist to the face?
A knife across the throat?
a 1911 at 10 yards?
a 30-06 at 300 yards?
A tank?
A howitzer?
Um... There aren't large swaths of people who want to ban cars and houses, and larger swaths of people who want to ban certain types of cars and houses.
Not complicated.
But they COULD...not today, not tomorrow...but some day.
The government could come and take your home, your money, and your right to social services that you've paid into at any time.
So why aren't you already totally paranoid about that? This is what happens when you agree to live in a society.
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