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Old 02-12-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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some folks dont qualify for welfare so student loans take its place to live without working. A neighbor has racked up 100,000 in just 3 years,it pays mortgage,food beer cigs etc. all for a going to class what seems like part time. has no intention of paying it back. A blemish on those truly seeking a good education and a rewarding career.
You'd rather have her tanning in the back yard and collecting welfare? I'd say no...unless she's really hot.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:52 PM
 
Location: NJ
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It is about staying competitive in a global economy. Of course people will still choose to not go to school and work for less money. But if you think foreigners are not getting degree's in engineering, Cpu science and Medicine then you are not paying attention. Why not incentivize American youth to pursue those professions?
Bingo, as a nation, we are falling behind other countries in terms of the percentage of our citizens with degrees, advanced degrees, etc. That is deadly.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Okay.

What is a degree in Anthropology worth?
They make for more interesting bartenders than the kids with journalism degrees. I usually tip them better.
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Old 02-12-2013, 09:55 PM
 
Location: City of Angels
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investing in human capital generally pays off in the long run.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:09 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The college diploma has become the new high school diploma. Only it isn't free like high school was. Far too many young people walk out of college with not just a college degree but massive debt and no better job than their Dad did with just his high school diploma. Worse, far too many end up with that debt and no college degree because they flunk out but they still have to pay back that money. We have also gotten rid of our 6 month to one year long vocational ed programs that used to train skilled laborers. For heaven's sake, beauty school now costs between $6,500 - 20,000 these days. When I graduated high school my neighbor paid $125 for that pleasure. What happened? The government started offering financial aid to attend. But I digress.... we need to stop pushing everyone into college and bring back high school vocational ed programs. One of my brothers learned heating and air conditioning repair while in high school and has supported his family quite well from that career. My cousin who became a plumber's apprentice right out of high school has done extremely well. There is nothing wrong with being a skilled laborer.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Don't ask us, ask all the employers who require college degrees.
Bingo.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:16 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It's actually the government's fault, in many cases, that you need a degree for a job. I know a guy who was a plumber for over fifteen years, a good one, and he had to go get a BS, BS degree because the state decided that a plumber needed one.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:18 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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Okay.

What is a degree in Anthropology worth?
65K a year teaching anthropology at a university LOL
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:25 PM
 
Location: California
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I never had the notion that everyone is entitled to a college education. Many couldn't handle it becaues they lack the mental ability, some don't want to even if they have the ability. Those who are able and want to persue higher education should have some option to do so. It doesn't necessarily mean going away to college though.
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Old 02-12-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I never had the notion that everyone is entitled to a college education. Many couldn't handle it becaues they lack the mental ability, some don't want to even if they have the ability. Those who are able and want to persue higher education should have some option to do so. It doesn't necessarily mean going away to college though.
I waited till I was 24, when I was ready to go to college and I am thankful that I did. I don't think I was in the right mindset at 18 if I would of tried college then. I was still basically a kid at 18.
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