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For millennia, the "traditional" definitions for human relationships included the slave-master relationship. Would you have found that to be a persuasive argument for continuing discriminatory treatment of groups who were usually enslaved? I could point any scores of "traditional" definitions of various social phenomena and structures that have needlessly harmed groups of people in civilizations, from blacks to gays to women. Are you willing to use "tradition" as the determining force in those cases, as well?
Basing who we allow to be granted legal recognition in their consensual relationships upon "traditional" definitions is a terrible way of forming principles on these matters. If you have some sort of persuasive argument regarding how allowing gay marriage will violate the common good, I'm all ears, but your argument thus far is a dreadfully dumb one.
The slave analogy is a faulty one. But I'll tell you what, I'll completely placate you. Take away the entire monogamous man/woman marriage debate. Do you support a consensual incest marriage? Why or why not? Thanks
I was wrong, you guys were right. I've conceded that my opinions of marriage are irrelevant. Now that that has been removed from the equation, let's get back to the topic at hand:
So we agree, that marriage has not always been defined as 1 man and 1 woman. So, any attempt to define marriage as being limited to 1 man and 1 woman is a redefinition of marriage, correct?
Where we got the word marriage is the Roman word matrimonium (matrimonial) has in its root word, matr (mother).
The institution of marriage has been a man and a woman since the Roman days. Why should we redefine it to include homosexuals?
In my opinion, polygamy and incestual relationships have a stronger argument for marriage than homosexuality.
Uhh...so your position is that marriage has been defined as 1 man and 1 woman except for the instances in which it has been defined as something else?
Can't argue with that.
So we agree, that marriage has not always been defined as 1 man and 1 woman. So, any attempt to define marriage as being limited to 1 man and 1 woman is a redefinition of marriage, correct?
So, now, do YOU support the redefinition of marriage, and do YOU support consensual incest?
Don't hijack my thread, start your own. I may participate. Do you support consensual incest marriage? Why are you so afraid to answer that? Take a stand for equality.
I don't think it's possible, due to the nature and complexities of a parent/child relationship, for there to be a true consensual sexual relationship between the two.
That's an odd thing to say. There are public figures in this world I don't like. I can't say I "loathe" any of them. That's an awfully big emotional investment in someone who has never and will never touch your life. Geez, I try not to even get to that point with people in my life I don't especially like.
Really? You don't loathe Hitler, Jerry Sandusky, George Bush?
I don't think it's possible, due to the nature and complexities of a parent/child relationship, for there to be a true consensual sexual relationship between the two.
Hmm....that's interesting. If they're grown adults, why not?
Don't hijack my thread, start your own. I may participate. Do you support consensual incest marriage? Why are you so afraid to answer that? Take a stand for equality.
Remarkably strong emotions towards someone you have never met.
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