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Old 03-16-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Remember that this sequestration isn't cutting anything. Govenment spending has been going up an average of 9% every year from 2008 to 2011. If that trend continues, this sequestration turns it from a 9% increase to a 7% increase this year.

But it's still an INCREASE in govt spending. Not a cut.

So, with an increase of 7% in govt spending due to sequestration... explain to me why the govt has to close 186 air traffic control towers?
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Old 03-18-2013, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Ontario, NY
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Remember that this sequestration isn't cutting anything. Government spending has been going up an average of 9% every year from 2008 to 2011. If that trend continues, this sequestration turns it from a 9% increase to a 7% increase this year.

But it's still an INCREASE in govt spending. Not a cut.

So, with an increase of 7% in govt spending due to sequestration... explain to me why the govt has to close 186 air traffic control towers?
The sequestration is increasing government spending, or is governemnt spending increasing anyway? The amount of money the federal government spends on government agencies such as the DOT, DOJ, DOA, etc is a small sliver of government spending. the bulk of government spending is Social Security (19.6%), DOD (18.7%), Unemployment/welfare (16.1%), Medicare (12.8%), Medicaid (8%), Interest on national Debt (4.6%) this equals almost 80% of government spending. You can only squeeze so much saving out of the other 20%. And most of the increases your seeing is from the other 80%, mainly from the expansion of social security (as more people retire) and increasing medical expense costs. Logically anyone with half a brain can see if you want to cut the federal budget by 40% to balance it, most of those cut are going to have to come from the other 80% of spending. Of course that means cutting money from the poor and serious citizen's, never a popular idea.

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Old 04-21-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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Remember that this sequestration isn't cutting anything. Govenment spending has been going up an average of 9% every year from 2008 to 2011. If that trend continues, this sequestration turns it from a 9% increase to a 7% increase this year.

But it's still an INCREASE in govt spending. Not a cut.

So, with an increase of 7% in govt spending due to sequestration... explain to me why the govt has to close 186 air traffic control towers?
because they want to scare the citizens?

or maybe they just want to shut down another industry.

seems they do have money for this today:

Kerry on Saturday announced additional U.S. aid of more than 120 million U.S. dollars to the Syrian opposition, to $250 million. According to the United Nations, the violence in Syria has now killed more than 70,000 people.

more money down the "war" rathole, and it is adding up:


Cost of Iraq and Afghanistan estimated $4 to $6 trillion


Linda Bilmes new paper revises war costs upwards based on increased utilization of medical care by active duty troops, families and veterans, as well as increasing volume and complexity of disability claims by veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Read the paper:

https://research.hks.harvard.edu/pub...=8956&type=WPN

money we don't have-which we have to borrow, with interest.

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Old 04-21-2013, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Lies, no I dont think so. The cuts will come at a nice slow pace as yearly budgets start running low and are unable to move cash from one line to another.
Maybe we shouldn't give 123 million to Syrian Rebels or billions to the mid-east.
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Old 04-21-2013, 09:18 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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Lies, no I dont think so. The cuts will come at a nice slow pace as yearly budgets start running low and are unable to move cash from one line to another.
Maybe we shouldn't give 123 million to Syrian Rebels or billions to the mid-east. Quit pumping billions a month into our donors pockets? Stop the multi million dollar parties and vacations?
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Old 04-27-2013, 05:01 AM
 
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IMO the sequester was set up (10% across the board personnel cuts) (Reid-D) to obviously hinder the American people, so they would rally up against the GOP, yet the GOP wanted to set the sequester that each organization determine where to make their 10% cut, not necessarily personnel. Obama stated he would veto the GOP's plan. I'm not a fan of EITHER party yet again, Obama is playing the blame game and the American people don't see what is really going on.
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Old 04-27-2013, 06:18 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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You will notice that the Congress and those who travel by air frequently(those that have the wealth to do it) were being inconvenienced. Since the Repub sequester was impacting "real" people, the near immediate bipartisan solution was found. After all, any band-aids for the Repub Sequester should not be wasted on the "cattle", like Meals on Wheels recipients or Head Start, etc....

It's time ...

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2013/...icit-reduction

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