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Old 03-12-2013, 01:05 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Maybe everyone should walk around with guns on them all the time?

Then when some stranger gets pissed off at you and makes you angry (or vice-versa) ... the worst thing that may happen is either you'd be shot or they'd get shot?

Is that the kind of world you want to live in?
Why do you think owning a gun makes you violent?

They did a study in Texas when they started issuing CCW permits. They found that a person is 5 times less likely to commit a violent crime than regular citizens. So people with CCW's are 5 times safer than people without. Don't let these facts get in your way.

The total population of Texas has an arrest rate for violent crime that is 5.3 times higher than Texas CHL holders, based upon data from 1996 - 1999.
http://www.txchia.org/sturdevant.pdf
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:07 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I am not projecting anything.

I am stating that the world is a safer place when it is not filled with people walking around with guns.
Your wrong, and I posted a study above that proves that people who legally carry guns commit less crimes.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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I am not projecting anything.

I am stating that the world is a safer place when it is not filled with people walking around with guns.
In places where concealled carry laws have been passed, or where they have gone from "may issue" to "shall issue", violent crime has decreased. So the facts would indicate that you are wrong. When only violent criminals are walking around with guns, yes, things are more dangereous.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:44 PM
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RD5050, you come off as quite naive and you may think you are helping but you are really doing harm to liberals. Liberals have a reputation of following their leaders no matter what and you are demonstrating that. Mark Kelly got caught buying an AR15. Then came up with a childish alibi after he was caught. Everyone sees it for what it is.

Mark Kelly has every right to buy an AR15. It is his pathetic lie that is at issue.

I predict he will come clean on his lie. Otherwise his credibility is gone forever. And it will take Gabby down with it.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Pardon me if his hat looks a little more pulled down than I would normally expect to see, I can see you're not hung up on that and I apologize for giving you something shiny to now focus on instead of the actual topic at hand.

What exactly could he have put on Facebook when he got home? That he legally purchased a gun and passed a background check? What does that prove?



It proves Fakebook is used for a wider agenda. And this thread is filled with shills.

sandy Hook prompted alot of fraud on fakebook, why are no new laws regulating this?. The media and its complicit role in all this is beyond disturbing. Major fail (again) by the msm.

They are 0-3 now.
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Old 03-12-2013, 01:54 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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How long to you think it takes to reload? Watch this 30 second video and then tell me if magazine restricts will do anything.

World's Fastest Reload - YouTube

there are people out there that can reload a revolver faster than this guy can reload a magzine.
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:26 PM
 
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there are people out there that can reload a revolver faster than this guy can reload a magzine.
And shoot 6 rounds faster out of a revolver than any semi auto.....
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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If doesn't matter who can load how many or how fast. He lied.

Who buys a $1500 rifle to turn it over to the police? Are you people really that stupid?!
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Earth
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If doesn't matter who can load how many or how fast. He lied.

Who buys a $1500 rifle to turn it over to the police? Someone committing a straw purchase=crime Are you people really that stupid? I think you KNOW the answer!

Liberals....you gotta love 'em....they're entertaining if nothing else.

They'll continually do stupid things to support their straw arguments...the thing they don't realize is that THEY are the only ones looking stupid doing them.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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BBBBBBBZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz WRONG...............

I left (retired) the Army in 2009, WITH my security clearance that was not set to expire until 2012, which is when we my company went back and had me do all the paper work again.

Your TSC/SC is good for 10 years....

Maybe you should learn a little about how the military/dod works with these....

My CURRENT (2009) security clearance was at the top of my resume, leting people know that I had a clearance....

Yes, common sense....use it sometimes...
I also had a clearance, yes it does help you but once you leave you will still need to be reestablished when you get a new position, it is not automatic, and really has nothing to do with your claim that it is easier for him just beacuse he has a clearance. He filled out the paper work and he needed to wait just like anyone else.

You never answered the second part, the background check has nothing to do with secret clearances, no preferential treatment for having been in the military.
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