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What makes you think there is no probable cause if you are at the border? A person outside the American border is probably not American and if they want to enter the American border they need to prove they are allowed to enter.
If I'm an American citizen and have done nothing wrong, why should I be subjected to an unwarranted search of my ID upon reentry to the country? Are you saying citizens leaving the country then coming back are no longer are afforded this protection you so value? What probable cause exist for a border guard to think someone is not an American Citizen? Is it simply because someone leaves the country they then are suspect to not be citizens? See how flawed your logic is? The reality is, there is no probable cause to think people at the border are not US citizens. Unless of course you think you "tell" just by looking.
You do not want to admit that you give up your "rights" to unwarranted searches willingly in some circumstances. Saying you object to some searches but not others while clinging to an absolute belief of freedom of moment is ridiculous and disingenuous.
TSA is a bad argument. You have the option to not be searched simply by not choosing to fly. Your argument would be a lot better if somehow the TSA/government forced you to fly.
Poor argument.
One has personal liberty - the right to travel.
That in order to travel by air on a common carrier, one must surrender one's privacy and submit to a search IS a clever violation - by consent.
They could have used far less intrusive means to ascertain weapons or threats. But this way, they slowly train the "little frogs" to tolerate invasions of privacy "for our own good..."
As much as I do not approve of the TSA behaviours the fact of the matter is ,if you have a vehicle that takes the public NTSB has a say so as to public safety that's you.
The airline takes some responsibility, plus there are liberals that love to sue for any reason ,even if it is their own fault .
Liability lawsuits are at the head of the list via the lawyers maing a fortune at it .
So there you go .
If I owned a plane and took the public in it , you'd better believe that I would take measures to ensure my own safety and excersize the right to refuse service to some one I do not trust . Call it profiling ,it's my life, I will make money on some one I do trust.
No one has the right to force me to serve any one ,period.
Violation of that right is the problem .
Liberals demanding rights they had not earned is the whole problem .
I'm not willing to give up or compromise even one tiny bit if freedom in exchange for safety. I want the country to remain as free and open as it was intended to be.
If that means I get blown the hell up, then too bad for me. I'm not gonna live forever anyway. But I wanna die in a free America.
And there you have it---- I'd rather get blown up than have to put up with that inconvenient 2 minute search! Two whole minutes of lost freedom!!---sure, I'll gladly give up my life for that. Lunacy.
Poor argument.
One has personal liberty - the right to travel.
That in order to travel by air on a common carrier, one must surrender one's privacy and submit to a search IS a clever violation - by consent.
Your "rights" (not that I agree flying is a right) are not being violated if you consent/waive them. I do wonder if you guys support racial profiling.
If I'm an American citizen and have done nothing wrong, why should I be subjected to an unwarranted search of my ID upon reentry to the country? Are you saying citizens leaving the country then coming back are no longer are afforded this protection you so value? What probable cause exist for a border guard to think someone is not an American Citizen? Is it simply because someone leaves the country they then are suspect to not be citizens? See how flawed your logic is? The reality is, there is no probable cause to think people at the border are not US citizens. Unless of course you think you "tell" just by looking.
You do not want to admit that you give up your "rights" to unwarranted searches willingly in some circumstances. Saying you object to some searches but not others while clinging to an absolute belief of freedom of moment is ridiculous and disingenuous.
Outside of the American border your rights only exist to the extent the other country recognizes them. Similarly, your rights are only protected once you are inside the US border. Out of 7 billion people in the world only 315 million are US citizens. If you are outside the US border the overwhelming odds are that you are not a US citizen. In fact, there is about a 96% chance that you are not a US citizen if you are outside US borders.
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Two whole minutes of lost freedom!!---sure, I'll gladly give up my life for that. Lunacy.
