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Old 04-26-2013, 07:27 AM
 
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Yup, we should have never let them into America:

Typical lib

As I recall, the pilgrims were not on welfare. What we DO NOT NEED is a lot more people on welfare. If they are not productive and do not bring a valuable skill- keep them out.

So MTA- do YOU want to pay for all the welfare that these "immigrants" collect, or, like a typical lib, do you want other people to pay for them? Why do libs like immigrants? More immigrants= more on welfare= more democratic voters.

Census data: High immigrant participation on welfare rolls | The Daily Caller

 
Old 04-26-2013, 08:34 AM
 
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We should have agreements with nations like Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK that allow a fast track process to get the right to work in the United States. At least with Canada and the UK who are our closest allies...we should provide preferencial treatment to our Western allies. Period. This should also apply both ways for Americans who would like to leave the country to go to Canada and the UK.

Other nations we should continue to encourage immigration but with a preference to skilled and highly educated labor.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 08:51 AM
 
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Default Ann Coulter: " The problem isn't just illegal immigration, it's legal immigration too"

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Originally Posted by Mashed Potatoes View Post
100% correct.

I would go even further and stop ALL legal immigration for at least a decade. This country is rapidly approaching critical mass, and in some areas, it has already surpassed it.

The idea of taking 3rd world peoples (no this isnt a race issue) and throwing them into our high tech, modern, and civilized society is not a good idea under any circumstances.

It will result in nothing but problems.

The Law of Analysis...

If one looks at one's problem long and deeply enough, one will begin to recognize oneself as part of the problem.

 
Old 04-26-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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All legal immigration? Including from Western nations?

We have no reached anything close to critical mass, the middle of the country is largely empty.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 09:32 AM
 
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Typical lib

As I recall, the pilgrims were not on welfare. What we DO NOT NEED is a lot more people on welfare.
Somebody tell me I didn't just read this.

Are you KIDDING ME? The pilgrims wouldn't have survived without welfare from the First Nations People (FNP). The pilgrims didn't bring with them farming or construction implements. FNPs had these which they had made themselves. Pilgrims didn't clear land, they merely took the land that had been cleared by the FNP who lived there already. Pilgrims didn't know how to fish, didn't know how to make houses, didn't know how to obtain water, how to plant, how to do anything and had to be taught all this by the FNP. They were on welfare, totally and fully. Often, they stole from the FNPs, going into their communities and stealing jars, and all kinds of trinkets they had, AND FOOD. For Pete's sake, Plymouth Rock was an FNP village! They were squatters and welfare recipients. In exchange what they gave the FNP was disease - diseases of all kinds that they arrived from their lands with.

So please, before you go spewing about how the pilgrims were self-sufficient (they were not!), get yourself a few history books and read up on your country.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 09:33 AM
 
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100% correct.

I would go even further and stop ALL legal immigration for at least a decade. This country is rapidly approaching critical mass, and in some areas, it has already surpassed it.

The idea of taking 3rd world peoples (no this isnt a race issue) and throwing them into our high tech, modern, and civilized society is not a good idea under any circumstances.

It will result in nothing but problems.
Ann Coulter is the problem.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 09:37 AM
 
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All legal immigration? Including from Western nations?

We have no reached anything close to critical mass, the middle of the country is largely empty.
Yes, from all nations.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 09:38 AM
 
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Ann Coulter is the problem.
That woman is the biggest, sickest nutjob. She and Malkin are total freaks.
 
Old 04-26-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Prytania;29303115

We have no reached anything close to critical mass, [B
the middle of the country is largely empty.[/b]
Does that give a green light to illegally come?

There are many other nations with vast empty land as well. Whats your position on those countries?
 
Old 04-26-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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Intelligent people know that the extremists on either side don't represent the majority on either side. Only those with an agenda will hold up the extremists as representing the side they don't agree with.
Except in the case of neocon Republicans, the extremist fringe element wackjob imbeciles were the very ones representing their party, often as the "luminaries", running for POTUS!

I mean, if a woman is raped, her body will prevent itself from becoming pregnant? Obama is a foreign national Islamist working towards jihad? Evolution is a myth? Homosexuality is tantamount to demonic possession?

Pfft.

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I suppose you think that the Democrat's advocacy to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens with 23 million Americans out of work isn't lunacy?
You mean like when Saint Reagan signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act in 1986, granting automatic amnesty to millions of illegals?

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The law was supposed to be a comprehensive solution with provisions intended to clamp down on border security. These provisions were never enforced, and the subsequent explosion in illegal crossings has resulted in some 11 million illegal aliens living in the United States today.
Ronald Reagan on Immigration

Or how about Bush's special little plan? :

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In the wake of President Bush's proposed "temporary" amnesty for illegal immigrants, Border Patrol agents have already reported a 15 percent increase in the use of fraudulent documents at the world's busiest land border crossing point at San Ysidro, near San Diego.

According to The San Diego Union-Tribune the Bush administration is ignoring lessons that it should have learned from 1986, when Congress granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens, hoping it would ease the problem. Instead, it became worse, and the number of illegal aliens entering the country grew significantly.
If you were better acquainted with history you would likely not come across as such a partisan hack hypocrite spreading misinformation.
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