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So what? There is still no need to point out sexual orientation.
Can you show me where the teachers said to ask for a lesbian kiss? Or did they ask girls to pair up and ask for a kiss to practice refusing unwanted advances?
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the girls were told to request a kiss from a female peer, Coon said. Her 14-year-old daughter told her it was awkward and uncomfortable, she said.
They were role playing how to say no to unwanted advances.
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Finch said that Linden Avenue Principal Katie Zahedi and guidance counselors worked with a group of Bard students to develop the workshop, including role-playing on how to say no to unwanted social pressures....
On a Facebook forum for parents, Zahedi said the exercise was “not to pretend to be gay” but to practice saying “no” to unwarranted advances.
From the same article.
In fact I don't see the word lesbian in the whole article. It wasn't until the "christian" news site picked it up that the word lesbian magically appears.
Something is and we should be asking ourselves what that is.
Naturally. And I do think that this exercise could backfire. Kids are probably already taking the exercise rather lightly, which could make the entire concept of saying no a joke to some. But that doesn't mean the curriculum itself should go, IMO.
Can you show me where the teachers said to ask for a lesbian kiss? Or did they ask girls to pair up and ask for a kiss to practice refusing unwanted advances?
According to the article.
Parents say their daughters were told to ask one another for a kiss and they say two girls were told to stand in front of the class and pretend they were lesbians on a date.
"She told me, 'Mom we all get teased and picked on enough. Now I'm going to be called a lesbian because I had to ask another girl if I could kiss her,'" parent, Mandy Coon, told reporters.
Now if you wish I suppose you can call her a liar but since that is what is being presented here and nobody has shown where it didn't happen this is what I am discussing.
That isn't the original article posted here and rarely does one article present all the information. But to something the article does note.
“The whole thing just baffles me,” she said. “If they are required to have this course, why are they bringing in other unlicensed, untrained professionals — college kids — to teach this?”
To me this throws up a huge red flag also. This doesn't seem to be the type of things I want volunteer college kids, many of them perhaps teens themselves teaching to my teen daughter.
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They were role playing how to say no to unwanted advances.
From the same article.
In fact I don't see the word lesbian in the whole article. It wasn't until the "christian" news site picked it up that the word lesbian magically appears.
Again, you are saying the girl is lying? She's a liar? It never happened? Or maybe she deserved it?
Naturally. And I do think that this exercise could backfire. Kids are probably already taking the exercise rather lightly, which could make the entire concept of saying no a joke to some. But that doesn't mean the curriculum itself should go, IMO.
I've seen nothing concerning the article that would state it encourages teen pregnancy. I was simply making a general statement.
Parents say their daughters were told to ask one another for a kiss and they say two girls were told to stand in front of the class and pretend they were lesbians on a date.
"She told me, 'Mom we all get teased and picked on enough. Now I'm going to be called a lesbian because I had to ask another girl if I could kiss her,'" parent, Mandy Coon, told reporters.
Now if you wish I suppose you can call her a liar but since that is what is being presented here and nobody has shown where it didn't happen this is what I am discussing.
That isn't the original article posted here and rarely does one article present all the information. But to something the article does note.
“The whole thing just baffles me,” she said. “If they are required to have this course, why are they bringing in other unlicensed, untrained professionals — college kids — to teach this?”
To me this throws up a huge red flag also. This doesn't seem to be the type of things I want volunteer college kids, many of them perhaps teens themselves teaching to my teen daughter.
Again, you are saying the girl is lying? She's a liar? It never happened? Or maybe she deserved it?
It sounds like the parents embellished the story a bit, as well as the christian site.
I do trust the people actually running the event, and the school admin more than a christian news site.
As for college kids teaching this, they were peer counselors, and they are closer in age to the students. It is easier for a teen to talk to someone closer to their own age, than it is for them to talk to someone that reminds them of their mom.
Why not? Are we not more likely to need that skill than we are to need algebra? Or is it because you think teaching kids what all goes into taking care of a baby will make them wanna run out of class and go make one?
Because a parent who raised YOU can instill their values and experience unto their grandchildren. And that is part of culture and tradition.
I don't want a cog in the machine of the state molding my childs values. It's not their business.
This is the second time you have repeated this view of yours in the thread. It would be very naive of you to believe homosexual advocacy groups did not have an agenda, as all groups regardless of their purpose, have an agenda.
While you and others might believe it is a myth proffered by (R's) as a counter to the recent push for same sex marriage laws, in reality it does exist, and has been going on for longer than that.
For instance a homosexual Hollywood producer for Dawsons Creek was interviewed and asked why he injected images of male homosexuality into the show.
He honestly and unabashedly stated that heterosexuals were never going to get beyond the "ick factor". He said "the only way to achieve his and other homosexuals goals of being accepted into American culture, was to slowly desensitize the viewing audience. He stressed slowly because "too much, too soon would backfire. However if it was done to make it appear to be more common by subtlety injecting it in shows whenever possible, people would be less offended by it because desensitization works".
While I applaud him for his candor and honesty, it helped to open my eyes to what Hollywood moguls and directors were up to in an almost subliminal way.
This of course goes well beyond a homosexual agenda with the Hollywood types. If you look closely, many movies and/or TV shows inject political leanings for and against causes, all wrapped up in an almost imperceptible way. I could go on to give specific examples regarding guns and the like, but that would potentially derail this threads topic.
It sounds like the parents embellished the story a bit, as well as the christian site.
I do trust the people actually running the event, and the school admin more than a christian news site.
The school administration nor those running it never said it didn't happen.
From your link...
Recently, several media outlets published a story referring to a “Forced Lesbian Kiss” in a middle school classroom in Red Hook, NY. The news coverage implied students in the classroom were forced to ask each other for a “lesbian kiss” (that is the wording cited in the news stories). The classroom discussion was lead by Peer Educators from nearby Bard College.
I have not seen a single source say there was any forced kissing. None.
From reading this site it seems they are trying in the nicest way possible to distance themselves from what went on in the classroom.
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