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Old 07-21-2013, 10:24 AM
 
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And before anyone says no... LOF Glass moved much of their manufacturing from Toledo OH to Mexicali MX as soon as the law went into effect.

That's not Detroit but pretty darn close.
Spotlight fallacy.

 
Old 07-21-2013, 10:26 AM
 
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You would think huh? And I sometimes wonder why the poorest and least educated states are those in the deep south dominated by conservative policies. Oh and the wealthiest and most highly educated states seem to be New England and the west coast, dominated by Democratic and liberal policies. Funny old world isn't it?
Love to see the citations behind your numbers.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 10:29 AM
 
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15 billion ? That is not a lot....millions in operating costs..that's standard...maybe money is not the real answer. Has there been discussion of the reformation of Detroit or are they going to attempt to re-establish what just collapsed? Which of course would be lunacy. Any way what's left of the place needs management...and it can not be left to rot- If one American city is allowed to fall- others will follow. I say your feds should take care of the very basic needs of the city and concentrate on a plan of revitalization- not bigger but smaller as we both suggested...You have understood my concept..shrink Detroit down to the model it was prior the car industry. It is an embarrassment to allow the place to start looking like a bombed out Berlin.
$15 billion is more than the GDP of many respectable countries.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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Based on your statement, you must believe that only people in unions work in Detroit.
Why is that? Do you disagree with my statement? And if so why?
 
Old 07-21-2013, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Why is that? Do you disagree with my statement? And if so why?
I do disagree with your statement, is all workers in Detroit apart of a union? Is there a law that prevents start up companies from not being apart of a union? Are you trying to tell me all the new start up tech companies that have popped up there are all union workers?
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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This is a solution I am posing. Bulldoze the areas that are beyond living in. Anything that can still be saved, save it. Anything that can't be saved, tear it down.

There is still another issue to consider. There is lead contamination that has occurred in Detroit. If the soil is fouled up, that presents a severe problem.
Maybe they could make it into a wild-life reserve like Chernobyl has become.

Actually when you google map and street view Detroit neighborhoods, you can see that nature is reclaiming them. Detroit is actually quite beautiful now.

I wonder if there would be tourist value in it --- like it would be cool to visit Chernobyl now and look at the ruins, but it's still radioactive and Detroit would be an affordable trip. People come all the way out west to do ghost town tours, parts of Detroit are now a ghost town. Ghost towns are really cool.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:19 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I do disagree with your statement, is all workers in Detroit apart of a union? Is there a law that prevents start up companies from not being apart of a union? Are you trying to tell me all the new start up tech companies that have popped up there are all union workers?
With an official unemployment rate (not U6) >18%, what are you talking..3 startups with 9 employees total??
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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What killed Detroit was corruption.

Were the local government bodies - for the city and the schools - not 100 percent corrupt, year after year, this would never have happened.

So....ask yourself.....why is THIS particular city government SO corrupt?

Where's Jimmy Hoffa?
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: NJ
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I wonder if there would be tourist value in it --- like it would be cool to visit Chernobyl now and look at the ruins, but it's still radioactive and Detroit would be an affordable trip. People come all the way out west to do ghost town tours, parts of Detroit are now a ghost town. Ghost towns are really cool.
Excellent idea. Sort of a real life "Life after People".
 
Old 07-21-2013, 11:29 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Maybe they could make it into a wild-life reserve like Chernobyl has become.

Actually when you google map and street view Detroit neighborhoods, you can see that nature is reclaiming them. Detroit is actually quite beautiful now.

I wonder if there would be tourist value in it --- like it would be cool to visit Chernobyl now and look at the ruins, but it's still radioactive and Detroit would be an affordable trip. People come all the way out west to do ghost town tours, parts of Detroit are now a ghost town. Ghost towns are really cool.
Great idea. Give everyone on the bus an AR15 just in case there is an assault on the bus.

"Ladies and Gentlemen. Please turn in your guns at the end of the tour"

Detroit Tour Bus:

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