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Old 06-12-2013, 11:40 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Michigantown View Post
Walmart put Main street out of business.
That's my issue with Walmart. That, and it's too big and too dirty. I never shop there and haven't in years.

They are building one in my town and I know the local business owners tried to stop it. We still have a lovely 'uptown' area with lots of shops and do not want to lose it. There is a small college in town and I believe the students contribute a great deal to keeping the uptown area alive.

One a month, all the businesses stay on open until late on Friday night and vendors come in and the whole town ends up there. I love it. I don't want to lose it to some big box store.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:43 AM
 
Location: NJ
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That's my issue with Walmart. That, and it's too big and too dirty. I never shop there and haven't in years.

They are building one in my town and I know the local business owners tried to stop it. We still have a lovely 'uptown' area with lots of shops and do not want to lose it. There is a small college in town and I believe the students contribute a great deal to keeping the uptown area alive.

One a month, all the businesses stay on open until late on Friday night and vendors come in and the whole town ends up there. I love it. I don't want to lose it to some big box store.
During Main Streets heyday, retail paid minimum wage plus a quarter or two..same as now.insured next to no one o/s family..now retail insures 40%. WM insures 51%.

30 years ago, Mom and pops gouged the public beautifully, though..even got the public to love them while doing so.

Now, mom and pops alive have to charge far fairer prices.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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During Main Streets heyday, retail paid minimum wage plus a quarter or two..same as now.insured next to no one o/s family..now retail insures 40%. WM insures 51%.

30 years ago, Mom and pops gouged the public beautifully, though..even got the public to love them while doing so.

Now, mom and pops alive have to charge far fairer prices.
Are you sure Mom and Pops gouged or they didn't get their goods from China?
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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The linked article is just one more illustration of labor attempting to use social media in hopes of garnering support for it's thus far unsuccessful attempt to organize employees at Wal-Mart. As for the living wage comment: Wal-Mart, in its Chicago stores, pays its employees, according to testimony given during it's permitting process, more than it's principal competitors in Chicago pay. As for corporations gaming the system, well, if it's demonstrated Wal-Mart is doing that, with a greater degree of certainty than presented in this particular discussion, Wal-Mart wouldn't have been the first, only or last corporation to do that. We all want more $$$, and we all want more benefits, for which someone else will pay. It's the American Way.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:59 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Are you sure Mom and Pops gouged or they didn't get their goods from China?
Gouged. We had many in my hometown. I knew them, knew the cars they drove, and knew they lived in more upscale towns. I lived in a middle class burb-most lived in an upper middle or beyond burb. Fewer than 10% lived in the same town as their store.

Goods were not coming from China in retail period.

I have no issue with their pricing decisions, but I don't wax nostagic over them, having recognized their pricing decisions.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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I guess it's the type of people that shop at Walmart around here. They rip apart packaging and leave stuff on the floor constantly, even new these stores started having problems with the floors being gunky. It's like they don't wash them, they just use water on a mop and spread it around a little. The grocery section is so big, why is it all junk food and the fruit and veg section look less than fresh. There are cart tracks and footprints on the clothes where they were on the floor and hung back up. You can never find an employee and you typically need their help because the store is one big disaster zone.

I'd rather pay more money to go to a decent store.
For someone who claims to not shop there, why is it you know so much about their stores?

My Wal-Marts are clean, aisles are wide, merchandise is orderly except they have candy just outside the pharmacy instead of in the food section (figure that one out!), and their generic drugs are $4/30 day supply.

Win-win!

When I see someone bashing Wal-Mart, I know they either shop there but don't want anyone to know or they live in a slum area.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:07 PM
 
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Baloney. You are not entitled to OT pay until you work 40 hours of regular time.
I wonder how many workers are having their hours cut down to below 30, to avoid Obamacare penalties
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: California
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My WalMart is pretty ugly, I go there maybe once a year and I can't even tell you why. It used to be nice but they remodeled years ago to make it look ugly. I thought it was a temporary thing the first time I saw it, thinking I would come back in a couple months and it would really look upscale. Nope. What I though was a temp set up while they "fixed up" was the final product. Dingy mismatched flooring and tilted racks and all. At that point Target became more appealing but even then...maybe twice a year. LOL.

I have no real beef with WM though, but I do agree that full time employees should not need government handouts on top of that. The real problem is there aren't many full time employees left anywhere is there? If they did choose to change and up their game they would benefit greatly....why they don't is a mystery to me. Costco gets all the love now.
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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I'm a job creator.

Wal-Mart pays its taxes, but even then, often pays less than what its supposed to and often receives subsidies from the city. Wal-Mart is being singled out because of their profits. If the company could not financially afford to pay its employees more, then no one would be singling Wal-Mart out.
What is their margin compared to the national composite of retailers? How much does Apple make? What about Abercrombie?
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Old 06-12-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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For someone who claims to not shop there, why is it you know so much about their stores?

My Wal-Marts are clean, aisles are wide, merchandise is orderly except they have candy just outside the pharmacy instead of in the food section (figure that one out!), and their generic drugs are $4/30 day supply.

Win-win!

When I see someone bashing Wal-Mart, I know they either shop there but don't want anyone to know or they live in a slum area.
I've shopped at WalMart. Not recently though. They do have good toilet paper. I don't trust anything frozen that they sell. Including produce. Overall, their prices are about the same as other grocery stores who are always running 2-for-1 and one day only specials.

Some WalMart stores are clean, some are not. The one closest to me isn't, products unshelved in piles in the middle of the floors. I don't see happy people there especially those that work there, try finding someone to ask a question. They don't treat their employees very well from what I've read.

I just don't want to shop there. Its too depressing to go inside.
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