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I've said this before but I wish Snowden took a different approach to revealing this information. I don't have very much trust in most media outlets beyond the local news as they tend to be misinformed or twisted in some way.
However, it is also very appaling that our 4A is completely violated. It doesn't matter what party affiliation you belong to, it is just wrong in many ways.
Good god, and you're throwing it back at me that I'm the tool? Snowden knew if he stayed he would bound and gagged and thrown to rot in jail for life. He exposed a huge ordeal that Americans needed to know.
What the hell us wrong with you? You're a boot licker and think you're some great American. I bet you would've turned in runaway slaves too.
As he should be. You know, break the law go to jail. He thinks he is above the law. Obviously so do you.
Making it easier to do wrong should help? You claim to support the law but as of yet I haven't seen you call for those who committed perjury or unconstitutional actions be held accountable. Only the one pointing them out.
That's right, this whole administration should be jailed. Thanks for pointing that out.
Yes the courts have indeed ruled what was done was unconstitutional.
Second, the proper channels were tried by many. The government went after those who tried to expose them and then lied under oath about the claims.
One can not work in a system if the other side is allowed to lie about what they are doing. Our system only works when both sides are truthful or there are ramifications for committing perjury.
Are you also calling for Clapper to be brought up on perjury charges?
You don't know that. You threw that against the wall to see if it would stick.
I have asked repeatedly for evidence that the NSA is spying on US citizens. No one has stepped up.
All you have is emotion and hysteria leading the charge.
I am a conservative, this administration is an abomination.
But I want verifiable proof of any wrong doing by the NSA. Period.
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Revealing that the NSA is committing violations of the US Constitution against the American people is not treason, but revealing classified information to other governments is treason.
Snowden is a traitor to his country in the same way that the brave men that signed the Declaration of Independence were traitors! Had they been captured they knew they faced death! They were lawbreakers! If they hadn't prevailed we would be speaking the King's English. Thankfully they prevailed! The NSA and the recent administrations of Obama, Bush, etc are no friends of the American citizen!
I swore the same oath that you did! The Constitution makes no provision for the government to violate the rights of Americans.
Once again the communication process breaks down. I have repeatedly asked for verifiable proof the NSA is spying on US citizens.
Yet to receive it. Take your whining and say it to someone who cares.
Snowden is a traitor to his country in the same way that the brave men that signed the Declaration of Independence were traitors! Had they been captured they knew they faced death! They were lawbreakers! If they hadn't prevailed we would be speaking the King's English. Thankfully they prevailed! The NSA and the recent administrations of Obama, Bush, etc are no friends of the American citizen!
I swore the same oath that you did! The Constitution makes no provision for the government to violate the rights of Americans.
As for whining, I'd say you're the whiner. Obama and other politicians have admitted that the NSA is spying. The Supreme Court is ruling on it! Where have you been?
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Those that put lawbreakers on a pedestal are foolish. And Snowden is a traitor to his country since the document you claim you love he violated when he broke his oath to it.
I swore an oath to the Constitution to protect my knowledge of what occurred in a certain segment of the Navy and I will not violate that trust. Therefore I uphold the document while you hail those who violated their word against it.
That makes those just as traitorous as the fool living in Russia, hopefully for whats left of his miserable life.
Snowden is a traitor to his country in the same way that the brave men that signed the Declaration of Independence were traitors! Had they been captured they knew they faced death! They were lawbreakers! If they hadn't prevailed we would be speaking the King's English. Thankfully they prevailed! The NSA and the recent administrations of Obama, Bush, etc are no friends of the American citizen!
I swore the same oath that you did! The Constitution makes no provision for the government to violate the rights of Americans.
As for whining, I'd say you're the whiner. Obama and other politicians have admitted that the NSA is spying. The Supreme Court is ruling on it! Where have you been?
And still the communication process is still further fractured.
I have repeatedly asked for verifiable proof the NSA is spying on US citizens.
Yet to receive it. Take your whining and say it to someone who cares.
LOL! Again, you're the blind whiner! Everybody but you has seen verifiable proof. Keep licking those boots! Obviously that's more important to you than the Constitution! Slurp, slurp.
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And still the communication process is still further fractured.
I have repeatedly asked for verifiable proof the NSA is spying on US citizens.
Yet to receive it. Take your whining and say it to someone who cares.
As he should be. You know, break the law go to jail. He thinks he is above the law. Obviously so do you.
He seems to be above the broken law.
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