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If not to mention they dont maintain militaries because they rest comfortably under the umbrella of our protection. I'd love to pull our troops out of the rest of the world and let them secure their own safety, security and sovereignty
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Originally Posted by im_a_lawyer
because United States indirectly subsidizes the world's healthcare by financing all the medical research?
Poorly done study - life expectancy is not an accurate measure of a medical system. That number includes traffic accidents, violent crime deaths etc. all of which confound any comparison of medical systems.
It's not a big mystery. The facts are right out there for everyone who wants to see them.
Why is it that we spend more per capita on healthcare than pretty much anyone else on the planet and still get inferior/mediocre results for it? How can such a status quo be considered "good" by some people?
Do you pay for your own healthcare? What's bad about it?
not to mention they dont maintain militaries because they rest comfortably
under the umbrella of our protection. I'd love to pull our troops out of the
rest of the world and let them secure their own safety, security and
sovereignty
You're the ones we need protection FROM, so thanks for nothing.
Poorly done study - life expectancy is not an accurate measure of a medical system. That number includes traffic accidents, violent crime deaths etc. all of which confound any comparison of medical systems.
I agree, but conservatives claim that national healthcare in these countries is so awful. You know, all those horror stories about needing to wait six months for an MRI. Life expectancy ought to be lower in that case. It isn't.
You simply cannot compare the US to European nations in regards to things like this. We have a much larger and far more demographically diverse population than any other first-world nation. There are more people and diversity in Wisconsin than in Norway.
So we're not smart enough to make something at least similar work for us and our special problems? Is that what you're saying?
now count the number of countries with socialized healthcare. Countries like Canada and UK get drugs cheap because people in the US fund that research by paying the full price.
The same with education comparisons where international organizations like the WHO research is poorly controlled. HS graduation rates in Japan arent including alot of the physically and mentally imaired who have to be accomodated here in the US and therefore are included in those numbers.
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Originally Posted by Rggr
Poorly done study - life expectancy is not an accurate measure of a medical system. That number includes traffic accidents, violent crime deaths etc. all of which confound any comparison of medical systems.
If not to mention they dont maintain militaries because they rest comfortably under the umbrella of our protection. I'd love to pull our troops out of the rest of the world and let them secure their own safety, security and sovereignty
^ this too. People have no idea how much of our "waste spending" benefits the rest of the world.
"Growing numbers of patients are being denied treatment for conditions such as loss of sight, arthritis and infertility as the NHS increasingly rations healthcare in order to save money, research by the Guardian shows. Services for patients with mental health problems and addictions and those who need physiotherapy after accidents are being scaled back, while operations to fix hernias or remove cataracts or varicose veins are either being refused or delayed. Primary care trusts all over England are having to reduce their services or provide them in new ways, as they struggle to contribute to the £20bn savings drive imposed by the health service chief executive, Sir David Nicholson. Many PCTs are banning, restricting or imposing long waiting times on treatments that until recently were provided routinely by the NHS."
"Personal Healthcare Budgets (PHBs) were not discussed at the 2010 election and are little discussed now, but they will soon be implemented across the entire NHS. In its direct payments for healthcare document, the Department of Health says that the government will legislate this summer to allow people to have a separate bank account to hold a PHB and change the law to allow patients to pay for NHS services."
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