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Obama and his lovers; Government is father, Government is mother, Government is god. But the truth is that Government is an indifferent husband, an absent father, a terrible provider and an inadequate teacher.
No sane society will continue indefinitely to finance your ghettos. And no insane society can continue to finance them indefinitely. Make your own way, because the party can end at any time.
I'm a registered republican, and i'm educated
The difference between us is that I live in the real world. Without government we would be living in a 3rd world environment. The teabaggers and their craziness are what put Obama back into office, and they're what's going to lose the republican party the next election. The way you ramble on about things just sounds like some paranoid schizophrenic speaking in a word salad because he diddn't take his meds.
That is funny, were ya alive in 2000? Do you remember the "selected, not elected" crapola before GW had served one day in office?
I was, and I do. Something happened, and people were upset about that thing. Weird that your electoral process actually puts people with a vested interest in the outcome in positions to allow or disallow votes. "Selected not elected" is accurate. You can disagree if you like, but they were still complaining about something that actually happened. It's not like the right's whining about Obama and making up stories about birth certificates and socialist muslim caliphates because they lost. It's not even close.
cool, so you want to own slaves and not pay taxes.......
There was a diversity of opinion among the Founders on slavery and race, but the bottom line is that many if not most of the Founding Fathers opposed slavery. The following states abolished slavery when the Founders were in power:
1. Vermont in 1777, the first Western nation to do so in the modern era (Vermont was independent at the time).
2. Pennsylvania in 1780
3. New Hampshire and Massachusetts in 1783. This also includes the future state of Maine which was part of Massachusetts at the time.
4. Connecticut and Rhode Island in 1784.
5. The Northwest Territory and thus 6 future states in 1787
6. New Jersey in 1804
7. New York in 1817
In addition, the slave trade was banned at the federal level in 1808, as soon as the Constitution permitted it. To be a pack of racist slavers they sure accomplished a lot against slavery . When the Founders started out slavery was legal in every state, but when they exited the scene slavery was banned in every Northern state and the abolitionist movement was gaining strength based on the principles the Founders enshrined into law. That's a net positive.
There certainly were Founding Fathers who were racist and pro-slavery, but most of them were from the South. The Constitution was as anti-slavery a document that the Founders could get and still keep the southern half of the country in the union. They were trying to create one central government for all 13 states, not just the northern states. It should be noted that if every state legislature abolished slavery, not one word in the Constitution would need to be changed; indeed, the Thirteenth Amendment didn't strike any words from the original Constitution.
Besides, slavery isn't even consistent with the founding principles of the United States, and it was abolished 150 years ago in the South and 200 years ago in the North. Why would we want to bring it back? The whole point of the Tea Party and libertarianism is to reject slavery and naked force in all of its forms.
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I'm a registered republican, and i'm educated
The difference between us is that I live in the real world. Without government we would be living in a 3rd world environment.
Third world environment? Having a (limited) government may be a net positive over having no government, but I'd like to know just what does government do that is so vital that without it we would have eternal third-world destitution? The innovations that have made us into a first-world country have come from the private sector, which incidentally is where the government gets all of its funding. Simply put, the belief that government creates prosperity is economically illiterate.
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Obama and his lovers; Government is father, Government is mother, Government is god. But the truth is that Government is an indifferent husband, an absent father, a terrible provider and an inadequate teacher.
Government is father, Government is mother, Government is god. But the truth is that Government is an indifferent husband, an absent father, a terrible provider and an inadequate teacher.
yeah and people hate Obama because of the things he is doing now.
And people hate Obama because of the things they're falsely told he's doing now. Neither has anything to do with the way the teabaggers started calling Obama things in 2008 because their party lost.
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Remember Libya?
The horror! The horror! Makes Iraq look like a paper cut!
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And lost how?
Lost the election? Please keep up.
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You really think Obama has done anything positive for this country?
Plenty. I applaud his push to close Bush's torture prison even if he did end up catering to right wingers crying about how scared the idea makes them. It's nice that homosexuals are considerably closer to not being second-class citizens. And as much as his health care initiatives upset the right, and as much as they don't bring you as close to universal health care as the left would like, it's a step forward.
And how about that bin Laden fellow? Bagging him seemed important to the right, once upon a time. "Dead or alive" I think your leader said.
But putting his achievements aside, his simply not being a Republican is a positive for your country. It baffles me that one could look at the current Republican offerings and think any one of them is capable. They're clowns! They deal with natural disasters by praying, think a woman can't get pregnant through rape, and want to make certain sexual positions illegal! This is not governance. These people are not interested in solving any problems your country faces today and wouldn't be capable of doing so if they were.
It's not a matter of conservative vs. liberal. Democrats aren't particularly liberal, for one thing, they're more centre-right. But the important thing is, Republicans aren't sane. It's a matter of mad vs. sane. When there's a sane conservative party, I'll listen. The likes of Perry and Bachmann don't deserve the time of day. Their predecessors, the Rumsfeld's and the Cheney's and the Bush's of the world, well, let's just say the world will be no poorer when they're gone. That's the very nicest thing I can think of to say about the worthless torturing scumbags.
On January 24, 2009, Trevor Leach, chairman of the Young Americans for Liberty in New York State organized a "Tea Party" to protest obesity taxes proposed by New York Governor David Paterson and call for fiscal responsibility on the part of the government.
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Sorry, I'm correct and you are obviously mistaken. No harm, no foul, consider yourself educated.
The Ron Paul Tea Party 2007
In 2006, a libertarian political party called the "Boston Tea Party" was founded. In 2007, the Ron Paul "Tea Party" money bomb, held on the 234th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, broke the one-day fund-raising record by raising $6.04 million in 24 hours.[78] Subsequently, these fund-raising "Tea parties" grew into the Tea Party movement, which dominated politics for the next two years, culminating in a voter victory for the Republicans in 2010 who were widely awarded seats in the United States House of Representatives.
And people hate Obama because of the things they're falsely told he's doing now. Neither has anything to do with the way the teabaggers started calling Obama things in 2008 because their party lost.
It was during the second election that I woke up. Obama ran around demanding higher taxes from people who work hard to earn that money. Yep, after that, he doesn't have a chance in HELL with me. He could part the waters and he still doesn't have a chance in hell! Any POLITICIAN that wants to steal more money from the people won't get my vote. He's nothing but a money grubbing POLITICIAN who demanded more money from Americans to pay his campaign contributors and unions. And you thought you were going to get mo money ROFLMAO.
And, he doesn't believe in free speech if people don't agree with him. Of course the Democrats and liberal media are trying to stop the investigation into the IRS. Are they afraid that evidence will show the IRS was used to silence his opponents so he could win the election?
Those fund raising parties EVOLVED into the formal Tea Party which was founded in 2009.
No education needed.
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. When the Founders started out slavery was legal in every state, but when they exited the scene slavery was banned in every Northern state and the abolitionist movement was gaining strength based on the principles the Founders enshrined into law. That's a net positive.
