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Old 07-22-2013, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Don't forget this IF:

If Trayvon was so damned pure and innocent as an angel, he coulda called 911 instead of Rachel for advice. Even then he didn't heed her admonition of 'Run, Trayvon, run!'.

He CHOSE to stay and pick a fight.

Conclusion: He did have some reason to not call 911. He was opening a can of whoopass on someone by surprise, and lost.
He had no obligation to run. Why does the black man have to cower and flee from a white racist? He had a right under SYG to kill Zimmerman. It is a shame that he was not armed and was not able to do that.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Why does the black man have to cower and flee from a white racist?
Whoa!

Back up.

Who is this "white racist" you are talking about?
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:33 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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I was really impressed with Zimmerman's brother and the comments he made after Obama made his speech being concerned only with one race of young boys. I am expecting that maybe one or both of the Zimmerman brothers to run for office and probably win. We need people like them in office.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'll defend TM here even though both of these guys are/were morons.

Calling the cops for help when you're a young black male doesn't necessarily mean you'll get help...historically speaking. In fact, you may be in more trouble than you originally found yourself in.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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He had no obligation to run. Why does the black man have to cower and flee from a white racist? He had a right under SYG to kill Zimmerman. It is a shame that he was not armed and was not able to do that.
Wait, Rachel called GZ a rapist and told him to run. He should have followed her advice.

And you're correct, TM had a right to kill Zimmerman. But while trying to that, he lost. He was armed. He had his fists, and the concrete.

But in the fight to save their own life, one guy won, the other didn't. Get over it.

SYG had nothing to do with it, the self defense statute did.

Youse guys act like this was a cold blooded murder. It was self defense.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:36 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I'll defend TM here even though both of these guys are/were morons.

Calling the cops for help when you're a young black male doesn't necessarily mean you'll get help...historically speaking. In fact, you may be in more trouble than you originally found yourself in.
That goes for everyone, not just young black males, which is why Harrier has a "never call the cops" policy.

That was actually Zimmerman's one bad action - calling the Sanford police.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:37 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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I'll defend TM here even though both of these guys are/were morons.

Calling the cops for help when you're a young black male doesn't necessarily mean you'll get help...historically speaking. In fact, you may be in more trouble than you originally found yourself in.
Baloney.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Baloney.
Ham?
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:47 PM
 
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Baloney.
The cops would question Zimmerman as to why he was following Trayvon.

Zimmerman would tell the cops he saw the black fellow attempting to break into one of the houses.

Trayvon would have been arrested for suspicion of breaking and entering.

Trayvon would have been meatloaf.
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Old 07-22-2013, 10:55 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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If he helped a family good for him.

But I think it's coming too close on the heels of the verdict and too coincidental.

Wannabe cop has a police scanner and I think he's using it to play hero.
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