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I thought it was in the last three months of life.
I can tell you, however, when faced with someone elderly, who has less than a 5% statistical chance of survival, nearly EVERY FAMILY MEMBER says, "Do everything you can for grandma!" You try to tell them that "grandma" is dead and that further intervention is hopeless, however (as they are not paying a dime) they want "everything" done.
I have often wondered in those situations if you agreed, but simply asked each family member to cough up $100 each to "balance" the several hundred thousand dollar bill (that will go unpaid) whether those same family members would say,"Grandma had a good life- it is time to let her go!"
horse crap when my mother needed care the cost at all was not on my mind and if I needed to pay I would have gladly done so
just because you put a price tag on your grandmother or mother
don't drag me in your sewer!
Keep in mind that it's not only the elderly that are diagnosed with less than a year to live, this includes babies, children and teens. Hospice care includes all ages. What I am finding in researching this for young people appears to come mostly from the UK. Don't know why that is.
My understanding of hospice is that it's primarily palliative, in-home care, by the family with support of Medicare and personnel.
So don't just blame the old folks, when it comes to end of life care.
Keep in mind that it's not only the elderly that are diagnosed with less than a year to live, this includes babies, children and teens. Hospice care includes all ages. What I am finding in researching this for young people appears to come mostly from the UK. Don't know why that is.
My understanding of hospice is that it's primarily palliative, in-home care, by the family with support of Medicare and personnel.
So don't just blame the old folks, when it comes to end of life care.
In numbers, dollars and volume, end of life care is almost all seniors. Especially as it comes to optional or debatable spending. Because with the young, in most cases all stops should be pulled.
Hospice is mostly all palliative, and can be at home, in the hospital, nursing home or dedicated hospice facility.
In numbers, dollars and volume, end of life care is almost all seniors. Especially as it comes to optional or debatable spending. Because with the young, in most cases all stops should be pulled.
Hurray for another fan of limiting care based upon age. For your sake I hope you reach your expiration date before age 65 because at 66, I doubt you'd be as much a fan of rationing "optional or debatable spending" as you are now so I'd like you to be spared than conundrum. Isn't that nice of me?
I thought it was in the last three months of life.
I can tell you, however, when faced with someone elderly, who has less than a 5% statistical chance of survival, nearly EVERY FAMILY MEMBER says, "Do everything you can for grandma!" You try to tell them that "grandma" is dead and that further intervention is hopeless, however (as they are not paying a dime) they want "everything" done.
I have often wondered in those situations if you agreed, but simply asked each family member to cough up $100 each to "balance" the several hundred thousand dollar bill (that will go unpaid) whether those same family members would say,"Grandma had a good life- it is time to let her go!"
Not true. Many family members in my workplace have signed "Do not hospitalize" orders for their loved ones because they don't want them to suffer, and if they die they want it to be where they feel most at "home".
Hurray for another fan of limiting care based upon age. For your sake I hope you reach your expiration date before age 65 because at 66, I doubt you'd be as much a fan of rationing "optional or debatable spending" as you are now so I'd like you to be spared than conundrum. Isn't that nice of me?
You misread this. With the elderly there commonly can be very debatable/alternative spending at end of life. With the young rarely.
I've been reading posts where people just want to kill everyone over 67.
If people are in their "final year of life" they are frequently terminally ill.
How would one determine what one's final year of life might be?
Exactly! You posted what I have said many times over. You only know it's the last year of life in retrospect.
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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC
I've said many, many times that hanging on to a foregone conclusion is one of America's most costly and stupid policies.
Keep in mind that it's not only the elderly that are diagnosed with less than a year to live, this includes babies, children and teens. Hospice care includes all ages. What I am finding in researching this for young people appears to come mostly from the UK. Don't know why that is.
My understanding of hospice is that it's primarily palliative, in-home care, by the family with support of Medicare and personnel.
So don't just blame the old folks, when it comes to end of life care.
I agree with the below.
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Originally Posted by Hoonose
In numbers, dollars and volume, end of life care is almost all seniors. Especially as it comes to optional or debatable spending. Because with the young, in most cases all stops should be pulled.
Hospice is mostly all palliative, and can be at home, in the hospital, nursing home or dedicated hospice facility.
Agreed. The people under 65 are a small percentage of the terminally ill population. Aaaaand, hospice care is still expensive, even if no curative care is given.
Aaaaand, hospice care is still expensive, even if no curative care is given.
At home hospice costs are quite reasonable here. We have a lot of donors and volunteers locally.
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