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Old 08-16-2013, 08:51 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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You're a little behind the rest of society because those contracts were thrown out and put for re-bid and NOT ONE US COMPANY GOT THEM

U.S. Companies Shut Out as Iraq Auctions Its Oil Fields - TIME

Maybe eventually, you'll stop embarassing yourself by displaying how little you know.
I guess that you were right since American oil companies were not there and did not make anything from the invasion, except how are they still there if they did'nt?


[SIZE=4]Western oil firms remain as US exits Iraq - Features - Al Jazeera ...[/SIZE]


And forget these guys as well......

[SIZE=4]Iraq War Profiteers: 25 Companies Who Benefit From The War[/SIZE]

Btw, if you would read more closely as to the reson why America and it's allies did not get to claim all of Iraq because political reasons
[SIZE=4]Are American oil companies carving up Iraq after all?[/SIZE]
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:50 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I get it, I get it.
No you don't.

Same as always.
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:53 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Not too well informed on the way things work in the US government, huh?
You truly aren't.
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It was debated in public (unlike Obamacare). In Congress, a vote was taken to authorize it.

Did you somehow miss that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
If you'd take the time to read that resolution in your link, you'd be better informed. Instead, you'll likely continue to plow ahead, sure that your mistaken opinion has some connection to reality.

Bush ordered the invasion. No one else.
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Old 08-17-2013, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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About 10 years ago, I didn't have much internet access to see arguments in the online political community. For those who did, how did conservatives defend GW after no WMDs were found in Iraq?
Why don't you ask John Kerry?

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-646435.html

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Senate's Role In Wars With Iraq

Following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in January 1991, Kerry broke with the majority of senators and voted against authorizing the first Gulf War. He said on the Senate floor, "It is a vote about war because whether or not the president exercises his power, we will have no further say after this vote."

Kerry thus voted against war after Iraq took aggressive military action. He said a vote in favor of military action was tantamount to giving Congress "no further say" on the war.

In October 2002, he supported the current war in Iraq, despite the fact that Iraq took no aggressive action against its neighbors.

In announcing his candidacy for president, in September 2003, he said his October 2002 vote was simply "to threaten" the use of force, apparently backtracking from his belief in 1991 that such a vote would grant the president an open-ended ticket to wage war.
Whichever way the wind blows!
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:09 AM
 
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You truly aren't.


If you'd take the time to read that resolution in your link, you'd be better informed. Instead, you'll likely continue to plow ahead, sure that your mistaken opinion has some connection to reality.

Bush ordered the invasion. No one else.
Bush WAS given the authority by Congress. You may attempt to play semantics with that all you want, but no one objected when the go ahead was given.

Just as Congress voted to give FDR the authority to enter WWII, they deferred the actual timing and planning to the President as Commander-Inn-Chief of the Armed Services to carry it out.

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Old 08-17-2013, 09:34 AM
 
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The war produced more profits for the big business cronies of Bush than they had seen in decades.They were not about to stop the flow of cash into their pockets..Ask Haliburton how much they were able to steal.
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Old 08-17-2013, 09:43 AM
 
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The war produced more profits for the big business cronies of Bush than they had seen in decades.They were not about to stop the flow of cash into their pockets..Ask Haliburton how much they were able to steal.
Oh please! Bush couldn't have gone to war if Congress had said no. So in effect then you are saying the Congress OKed it to line Bush's friends pockets.

It's no surprise that industries that make products of war or supply them make profit whenever there is war.

Did FDR get blamed for US Steel making profits from WWII ?

PS: Haliburton got no-bid contracts during the Clinton administration as well. That's because these things are pre-bid by the Pentagon.....for a very good reason.

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Old 08-17-2013, 11:10 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Bush WAS given the authority by Congress. You may attempt to play semantics with that all you want, but no one objected when the go ahead was given.
Again, reading the Iraq Resolution would save you from making ignorant statements.

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Just as Congress voted to give FDR the authority to enter WWII, they deferred the actual timing and planning to the President as Commander-Inn-Chief of the Armed Services to carry it out.
Like equating the Iraq Resolution with the 1941 declaration of war after Pearl Harbor.
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Old 08-17-2013, 11:25 AM
 
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Again, reading the Iraq Resolution would save you from making ignorant statements.
Lol....if you think there's something there that supports your interpretation, then say what it is.

I doubt it....but try and prove it.

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Like equating the Iraq Resolution with the 1941 declaration of war after Pearl Harbor.
For the purposes of showing how Congress gives the President the authority and then defers the actual prosecution of the war to the Commander-In-Chief.....absolutely!

I note you didn't mention all those members of Congress that thought Bush was wrong at the time?

I mention 'at the time' because we all know how many attempted to re-write history after the war's popularity wained.


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Old 08-17-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It is too funny those that have been so brainwashed to think this was all GW. Bush and Dick Cheney.

There were democrat house representatives on the intelligence committee.
This was not an executive order.
Congress actually had a vote.
This was not a Partisan vote.


I think Ron Paul was the only one to vote NO. LOL!



The ability to rewrite history, can only take place, when those alive when it happened are dead.
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