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Old 08-24-2013, 12:10 AM
 
Location: west mich
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You know what's dumb? Continuing with the same tired fallacies over and over and thinking people will take them seriously.
Weak, no answer, can't back up your own words - and that says it all.
Black unemployment has always been higher, and who needs a right-wing propaganda site to "stir the racial pot" with pointless and redundant "data" - the RW stock in trade. A really pathetic defence of ideology...

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Old 08-24-2013, 12:15 AM
 
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You would think that our resident Constitutional scholars on the right would understand what impeachment is for and when the appropriate use is.
Like bypassing congress for unconstitutional wars?
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:22 AM
 
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Weak, no answer, can't back up your own words - and that says it all.
Black unemployment has always been higher, and who needs a right-wing propaganda site to "stir the racial pot" with pointless and redundant "data" - the RW stock in trade. A really pathetic defence of ideology...
This poster still don't make any sense. No clue what right-wing propaganda site this individual is referring to. I posted no site anywhere.

Low information voters are what shyster politicians like Obama count on. Perhaps by virtue of the time this poster posted, they were soused on hooch.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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Yeah but the welfare is flowing, baby.

The majority of people on welfare are white.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The majority of people on welfare are white.
The majority of people living in the US are White so that shouldn't come as any surprise.
It would make a bigger statement if races were equally represented but they aren't.
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:14 AM
 
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The majority of people on welfare are white.
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The majority of people living in the US are White so that shouldn't come as any surprise.
It would make a bigger statement if races were equally represented but they aren't.
Indeed. What matters is percent as total population of each racial group. To merely go by sheer numbers is 1-dimensional thinking.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Indeed. What matters is percent as total population of each racial group. To merely go by sheer numbers is 1-dimensional thinking.
You have to look at the percentage within each group.

Total population: 318 million
Whites are 63% = 200 million
Blacks are 13% = 41 million
Hispanic 17% = 54 million

Total on TANF & Food stamps: 48 million
Whites: 38% = 18 million
Blacks: 39% = 19 million
Hispanic: 15% = 7 million

More Blacks are on TANF and Food stamps by the numbers.
Now there are 82 additional welfare programs but those numbers aren't available.

So you have 41 million Blacks in the US and 19 million of them are on TANF/SNAP.
That's nearly half of the Black population in the US.

Source: US census for population
Source for TANF/SNAP figures:
Welfare Statistics | Statistic Brain
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:41 AM
 
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Yet the liberals including Obama are all about unlimited and very massive immigration --- they prefer the foreign cheap workers over getting unemployed Americans into jobs.
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Old 08-24-2013, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Fair enough. The OP's implication that somehow Obama's policies cause more black unemployment is servile to right-wing falsehoods. Black unemployment rises with unemployment and falls in full employment times. There are no new Obama programs to make it worse.

It's contradictory that the right-wing claims the government can't create jobs and then blames the government for not creating jobs.
I agree somewhat. I feel exactly the same about many of the positions the left holds. If you cry hypocrisy you have to be an equal opportunity crier.

You cannot discount the increased dependence on social nets that this administration has pushed. I know you're all tired of hearing about the 40% increase in food stamp usage. IT IS A FACT, and reflects the true health of our country. Their push to enroll people on SNAP has done much damage to the poor class, and is helping to keep them in poverty by choice.

Let's also face the reality of the generational poor who seem to prefer having a BA in social welfare programs, rather than being productive contributors to society. Welfare is supposed to be a hand up, not a profession.

@Winter_Sucks -- not all of us live in these forums, like many do, so the crickets remark was more your impatience than a lack counter challenges.

@HappyTexan -- I just looked up. Consider this a backup to your post.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:19 PM
 
Location: west mich
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This poster still don't make any sense. No clue what right-wing propaganda site this individual is referring to. I posted no site anywhere.
Low information voters are what shyster politicians like Obama count on. Perhaps by virtue of the time this poster posted, they were soused on hooch.
Are you reading the thread at all??
** The website is in the OP.
** Low information voters are the Fox News bread and butter. You've been listening to Limbaugh, eh?
Remember my earlier post? 70% of Louisiana republicans think Obama was President in 2005 and was responsible for hurricane Katrina disaster relief. That's Fox doing its job.

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Yet the liberals including Obama are all about unlimited and very massive immigration --- they prefer the foreign cheap workers over getting unemployed Americans into jobs.
More Limbaugh? Illegals are hired by conservative-owned businesses - you know, that dirt-cheap laborer who can be threatened with deportation. Let's put employers in jail for hiring them, eh?
Yeah, "unlimited" and "extremely massive" numbers of brown people coming in - be very afraid!!
Cracking down on employers hiring undocumented workers.
Obama quote: “It means cracking down more forcefully on businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers…most businesses want to do the right thing… So we need to implement a national system that allows businesses to quickly and accurately verify someone’s employment status. And if they still knowingly hire undocumented workers, then we need to ramp up the penalties.”
And who opposes this? Republicans of course.
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