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Old 09-02-2013, 09:01 PM
 
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The groups avoid the emotion-laden names like "Nazi" or "Klan" (likewise for sleeves with swastikas, or white hoods and robes), their identity can be under names like "NSM" (National Socialist Movement). Here is a rally in Riverside from 2009:



The aside is that Jeff Hall and J.T. Ready are now both dead...
And there appeared to be about 6 "NSM" people in that video protesting while hundreds of illegals want to attack them, I guess that proves my point.

 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:14 PM
 
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And there appeared to be about 6 "NSM" people in that video protesting while hundreds of illegals want to attack them, I guess that proves my point.
I count at least six cop cars behind them too, with at least a dozen officers separating the groups. If you think that it is only "illegal aliens" protesting at a NSM rally, you do need to observe a few more. It was those domestic situations rather than the rallies that were a little more deadly for both Hall and Ready.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:17 PM
 
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Most of ND is safe.
I believe you since the actions of a few cannot dictate the actions of an entire state. I wonder if the Neo-nuts have a probelm with the Native Americans?
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:19 PM
 
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I count at least six cop cars behind them too, with at least a dozen officers separating the groups. If you think that it is only "illegal aliens" protesting at a NSM rally, you do need to observe a few more. It was those domestic situations rather than the rallies that were a little more deadly for both Hall and Ready.
I have no interest in observing anything that either of these groups are involved with, I'm just pointing out that many here claim that hundreds of thousands of neo nazis are all over this country which is just a lie. The numbers in these groups are basically rounding errors in the grand scheme of things.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:20 PM
 
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That's odd, at a recent rally I personally saw an entire parking lot full of people who claimed to be with the New Black Panthers but I've never once in my life seen a Klan rally or neo-nazis doing anything.

Where do you live? Have you been to some of the southern states or in the west? HellI have even seen a Klan rally in Pittsburgh!

[SIZE=4]Thousands Confront 50 Klan Supporters at Rally in Pittsburgh - …[/SIZE]
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:24 PM
 
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I have no interest in observing anything that either of these groups are involved with, I'm just pointing out that many here claim that hundreds of thousands of neo nazis are all over this country which is just a lie. The numbers in these groups are basically rounding errors in the grand scheme of things.
I guess that you are right, but 400 is still alot


The NSM rally on the West lawn of the US Capitol, Washington DC, 2008


There are a number of neo-Nazi groups in the United States. The National Socialist Movement (NSM), with about 400 members in 32 states,[SIZE=2][110][/SIZE] is currently the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States.[SIZE=2][111][/SIZE] After WWII, new organizations formed with varying degrees of support for Nazi principles. The National States' Rights Party, founded in 1958 by Edward Reed Fields and J. B. Stoner countered racial integration in the American southern states with Nazi-inspired publications and iconography. The American Nazi Party, founded by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1959, achieved high-profile coverage in the press through their public demonstrations.[SIZE=2][112][/SIZE]
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:27 PM
 
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Where do you live? Have you been to some of the southern states or in the west? HellI have even seen a Klan rally in Pittsburgh!

[SIZE=4]Thousands Confront 50 Klan Supporters at Rally in Pittsburgh - …[/SIZE]
I've been to all 50 US states, I've never once seen a Klan rally or a klan member for that matter.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:29 PM
 
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I guess that you are right, but 400 is still alot


The NSM rally on the West lawn of the US Capitol, Washington DC, 2008


There are a number of neo-Nazi groups in the United States. The National Socialist Movement (NSM), with about 400 members in 32 states,[SIZE=2][110][/SIZE] is currently the largest neo-Nazi organization in the United States.[SIZE=2][111][/SIZE] After WWII, new organizations formed with varying degrees of support for Nazi principles. The National States' Rights Party, founded in 1958 by Edward Reed Fields and J. B. Stoner countered racial integration in the American southern states with Nazi-inspired publications and iconography. The American Nazi Party, founded by George Lincoln Rockwell in 1959, achieved high-profile coverage in the press through their public demonstrations.[SIZE=2][112][/SIZE]
The new black panthers claim to have thousands of members in 40 something chapters around the US.
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:33 PM
 
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I've been to all 50 US states, I've never once seen a Klan rally or a klan member for that matter.
How many New Black Panthers have you seen?
 
Old 09-02-2013, 09:38 PM
 
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How many New Black Panthers have you seen?
Enough to block a 4 lane highway during rush hour and enough to fill up a few parking lots during the River Oaks rally that just took place recently.
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