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The posters above have tried to have an adult discussion with you but you just call all of us nutcases.
No, they've put up a litany of emotional NRA rot and disinformation that they have allowed themselves to become deeply invested in. Some might say they have been programmed.
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Maybe you live in a nice neighborhood where you wouldn't need a gun to defend yourself or your family but not everyone does and even us poor people deserve to have the right to defend ourselves.
You aren't Gary Cooper. Defending yourself does not at all imply getting involved in gunfights and shootouts. This in fact is the very last sort of thing you want to see happen. Adding guns and testosterone to an already volatile situation only makes tragic outcomes more likely. Maybe you'll win the lottery. Maybe you'll be the guy who doesn't get himself killed. But the odds are against you. This is why employers have the policies that they do. They are interested in harm-reduction. You are interested in dying with your boots on.
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I'll tell you one thing, I've literally seen war and been shot at....
Oh boy! Do you think this makes you special?
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No good reason to own an AR? What's your good reasoning to owning a house larger than mine, a car that costs more than mine, or anything else? I mean, did I wake up in the USSR?
I thought you said you were not a nutcase. There isn't a USSR, you know. Been gone for more than 20 years. Meanwhile, you don't have a right to own just any old weapon you want. You have a right to own weapons appropriate to self-defense within your own home. That's about it.
Read this, police do not have a duty to provide services to individuals:
Want to try again? Police cannot in most cases be held liable for failing to protect citizens not in their custody from the occurrence or commission of a crime. Warren is a DC Court of Appeals decision by the way, not a decision of the Supreme Court.
The only people talking about taking people's guns away are nutcases at the NRA and the even loonier Gunowners of America. It's all part of their phony scare-people propaganda strategy. Proposals to require comprehensive background checks or to restrict the sale of weapons that have no other purpose than to kill or maim a lot of people in a short amount of time are no more tantamount to taking your guns away than are keeping RPG's and SAM's out of your hands. Do you bristle at that as well?
And by the way, people who buy an AR-15 are not buying a weapon but the bad-ass, Rambo, Seal Team image that comes with one. It's the same people who drive Hummers with big wheels. It's all big people still playing toy soldiers. People who never outgrew Barry Sadler and GI Joe. People say they like to blast stuff with them over at the range or out on the back forty. Some people say they feel comfortable with an AR-15 because of their one-time infantry training with them. A few people say they actually hunt with them, but many states have banned them for hunting things much larger than a beaver. Basically, there is no good reason for owning one. It all comes down to being --- cool. Is that really reason enough?
OK, give us your plan. In your utopia, who may own guns and who may not? What kind of guns may they own and what must they do to qualify? What do you plan to do to those who do not follow your orders and choose to have guns anyway? Or do you think only the police and military should have guns? If so, welcome to the Soviet Union, China, Cuba, Nazi Germany, etc. Also, how many NRA or GOA people do you personally know? How do you decide they are "nut cases"? Are you a psychiatrist or psychologist, qualified to determine someone's sanity? I truthfully say those professions have their share of "nut cases" too.
BTW, do you drink alcohol? Drunk driving has killed far more people than guns. Is that your fault because you have a drink? Do you read pornography? Porno has been known to influence serial killers, such as Ted Bundy. Does that make you a serial killer?
Gun versus knife. Rock beats scissors. Had it been gun versus gun, the probability of one or more people having been killed would have gone way up. There are reasons why operators of such outlets have no-guns policies and why they instruct employees not to resist and to call police once the robber has left the premises. Testosterone isn't typically a factor in wise decisions about much of anything.
Tell your logic to the familes of clerks killed who did not resist. In my city, several clerks and store managers have been killed in robberies over the years. None of them were known to have resisted the robbers. One manager is permanently paralyzed. A lot of good your no resistance advice does.
Some people live in such a sterilized, protected class that they don't realize how cruel other humans can be.
The thing is, not all robberies are just robberies and people don't want to admit the ugly truth of what else can happen. If a woman is by herself and gets robbed, does it stop at that. So she should not resist and be raped and beaten?
The reason why our country attained greatness isn't because of our current attitude of being PC and submissive, reason why we became great was because we did what was necessary to protect ourselves, our freedom and our way of life.
I definitely wouldn't bring my gun to work if I was a convenience store clerk. I'm not going to get into a gun fight for ten bucks an hour. You're going to have to pay me some serious cabbage to go Wyatt Earp in defense of your corner stop-n-rob.
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